The Creation Story

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i was wondering for some insight on this because i have recently thought of a few ideas

Could the use of God creating the Earth in 6 days be a poor lack of scientific technology?

First day: God creates light
Okay, so this could mean in the beginning of Earths time when earth was just formed and the original author’s interpretation of why they have night/day? i mean they really did not have the technology we have now to figure out when the earth was created or anything. i dont really know about this one haha

Second day: God creates a firmament (or the skies)
Once again if i was writing this thousands of years ago, that would be a good idea to follow because you do not know how the atmosphere formed. Which scientist have proven how it has formed over time since Earth was created 4.8 billion years ago.
ux1.eiu.edu/~cfjps/1400/atmos_origin.html

Third day: God commands the waters below to be gathered together in one place, and dry land to appear
Once again, there was a show on the History Channel that stated earths oceans were on earth around 4.4~ billion years ago and continents and land formed 4.2-3~ billion years ago. All volcanic eruptions.

Fourth day: God creates lights in the firmament
Earths rotation? caused by the gravitational pull of the sun?

Fifth day: God commands the sea to “teem with living creatures”, and birds to fly across the heavens
The only one that is hard to think about because yes creatures have evolved over time and if you dont believe in evolution as a proper theory to our life now then you are still in black and white. the only main question to this would be where did the first creature come from.

Sixth day: God commands the land to bring forth living creatures
Evolution? over time water animals adapted to land.

Okay so a question i have . .
  1. We have dated main events in the creation of Earths history and so that leads me to wonder . . . How long are Gods days? or how do you think of “time” when referring to God?
I am just saying the idea of the first book is kinda ridiculous because the parts could not have been scientifically proven back in “Bible Days” . . . just a thought
 
i just do not know if im fully committed to the idea that God has always been . .

scientist have now discovered that our big open vast universe is 14.8~ billion years old, so now that means we have had to have started somewhere 👍
 
I think the more probable explanation is that the Torah and Bible requires an understanding of how to read ancient texts before any real understanding can be obtained void of MISunderstanding what they were talking about.

Science has not helped much in that regard at all other than helping to dig up some more artifacts that can be used to lend to the translation problem at hand.

Also Science tends to be lacking in the use of solid logic so as to gain a clear picture beyond the obvious, superficial, and questionable bits of evidence used to deduce conclusions.

In short, it takes a LOT of digging and rational thinking just to discover what they were saying, not to mention whether they were saying anything true.

😃
 
Time is an invention by man to measure from one instance to another. It’s a measurement that humans invented. Time has nothing to do with God. God transcends time. What does God care about seconds or minutes? These are human concepts.
 
06convert said:
Time is an invention by man to measure from one instance to another. It’s a measurement that humans invented. Time has nothing to do with God. God transcends time. What does God care about seconds or minutes? These are human concepts.
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Time is not so much an “invention” but a measurement of change. And God has EVERYTHING do do with change. 😃
 
I am just an ignorant savage. But let me add the few things I think I’ve learned - I won’t vouch for their accuracy though.
lemondiesel said:
i was wondering for some insight on this because i have recently thought of a few ideas

Could the use of God creating the Earth in 6 days be a poor lack of scientific technology?

First day: God creates light
Okay, so this could mean in the beginning of Earths time when earth was just formed and the original author’s interpretation of why they have night/day? i mean they really did not have the technology we have now to figure out when the earth was created or anything. i dont really know about this one haha
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The first moment of the big bang there was no matter as we have now, all was a bunch of energy in the form of heat and light, I suspect.
Second day: God creates a firmament (or the skies)
Once again if i was writing this thousands of years ago, that would be a good idea to follow because you do not know how the atmosphere formed. Which scientist have proven how it has formed over time since Earth was created 4.8 billion years ago.
ux1.eiu.edu/~cfjps/1400/atmos_origin.html
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God did not specify in the story that He made our oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere straight away, He created the firmament or atmosphere. The earth always probably had an atmosphere. When earth was very young and still molten its atmosphere was composed of different gasses in different proportions, earth was so hot even the rocks were part of the atmosphere, as vapour.
Third day: God commands the waters below to be gathered together in one place, and dry land to appear
Once again, there was a show on the History Channel that stated earths oceans were on earth around 4.4~ billion years ago and continents and land formed 4.2-3~ billion years ago. All volcanic eruptions.
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The earliest landmass I know of used to be called Gandwanaland, who thinks of these names. All the land on Earth was just this one big continent, the rest of the earth was water.
Fourth day: God creates lights in the firmament
Earths rotation? caused by the gravitational pull of the sun?
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I think there was also a bit about how the lights in the firmament allowed for the seasons to be known.
The Earths rotation was not always constant. The Earth slowed, or God slowed the Earth rotation. When God created man, man could use the stars etc. to judge the passing of the seasons. The rate of apparent movement of the stars was created now, by the earth slowing, for mans use to tell the passing seasons.
Fifth day: God commands the sea to “teem with living creatures”, and birds to fly across the heavens
The only one that is hard to think about because yes creatures have evolved over time and if you dont believe in evolution as a proper theory to our life now then you are still in black and white. the only main question to this would be where did the first creature come from.
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The sea. God called forth the creeping creature from the waters. And the creatures of the earth from the creeping creature and the earth.
Sixth day: God commands the land to bring forth living creatures
Evolution? over time water animals adapted to land.
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God called forth animals in the beginning in such a way that they would become everything that they are now. Evolution sounds a bit random. From bacteria to your girlfriend, but never from your girlfriend to bacteria.
Okay so a question i have . .
  1. We have dated main events in the creation of Earths history and so that leads me to wonder . . . How long are Gods days? or how do you think of “time” when referring to God?
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I am just saying the idea of the first book is kinda ridiculous because the parts could not have been scientifically proven back in “Bible Days” . . . just a thought
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You can think of them as you wish. I suggest that the days refer to the actions of God as He created everything. A day in mans thinking is a period of time. A unit. A way of dividing each separate event so as not to muddle them.
 
My thoughts of recent have been maybe God is not a person or a place like heaven or hell, but perhaps an idea of perfection and nirvana. “God created man in his image” so maybe we have just deevolutionized if you will. if time has nothing to do with God then maybe over time we have evolved from a perfect single cell organism (that could be formed to whatever conditions to survive) that could have possibly changed over time to what we are today?
 
Are you insinuating that those who penned the Bible may have not have understood God properly? In that case, why do we read the Bible at all. What is documented in the Bible is completely correct; the interpretation of man–not so much.

Don’t let what man thinks today sway you. People think we have arrived today but that is not the case. Yesterday, they were saying the world was flat. How can you put so much trust in humanity when we haven’t begun to scratch the surface?

By the way, the Bible said the world was a sphere before man ever did.
 
The OP is concerned about technology. I think a good clue to what God can do was shown to us by Jesus Christ. He raised the dead, cured blindness and walked on water, all without technology. If God can create the Universe from nothing, then He can certainly provide light without a physical sun. But no one wishes to think in that direction. God has no need for technology as we understand it.

Peace,
Ed
 
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