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I was visiting a parish while on a trip today and was a little thrown off when the priest asked everyone to stand for the creed. Everyone said the apostles creed so I went along but then after he had everyone recite the parish mission statement. I’ve never seen this before anywhere in the US.
My question is does the Roman missal allow for the pastor to insert the parish mission statement into the creed? Just wondering
 
Nothing is permitted to be added to the Mass here. (During the homily, announcement time, and even just after the priest’s initial greeting at the start of Mass, there is some debatable flexibility, but not at the Creed.)

Also, there is a legitimate option to use either the Nicene or Apostles Creed during Mass, so that part was fine…I sensed some uncertainty in your OP. There may, on occasion, be other options as well, such as renewing your baptismal promises, but all of those are spelled out in the Roman Missal.
 
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Nothing is permitted to be added to the Mass here. (During the homily, announcement time, and even just after the priest’s initial greeting at the start of Mass, there is some debatable flexibility, but not at the Creed.)

Also, there is a legitimate option to use either the Nicene or Apostles Creed during Mass, so that part was fine…I sensed some uncertainty in your OP. There may, on occasion, be other options as well, such as renewing your baptismal promises, but all of those are spelled out in the Roman Missal.
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I knew there was flexibility on saying the apostles instead of Nicene creed, I just haven’t experienced it since I was going to catholic school or during masses with lots of children present. It was the reciting of the parish mission statement that was really odd to me. I’ve only been Catholic for a few months but I’ve been an “observer” (for lack of a better word) for many years.

I really just started noticing parish mission statements on bulletins and websites for about a year now, so maybe that itself is a new development
 
Charliesj said:
I was visiting a parish while on a trip today and was a little thrown off when the priest asked everyone to stand for the creed. Everyone said the apostles creed so I went along but then after he had everyone recite the parish mission statement. I’ve never seen this before anywhere in the US.
My question is does the Roman missal allow for the pastor to insert the parish mission statement into the creed? Just wondering
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No, this is a liturgical abuse. If he wants to recite the mission statement, he should do it outside the Mass proper.
 
Charliesj said:
I knew there was flexibility on saying the apostles instead of Nicene creed, I just haven’t experienced it since I was going to catholic school or during masses with lots of children present. It was the reciting of the parish mission statement that was really odd to me. I’ve only been Catholic for a few months but I’ve been an “observer” (for lack of a better word) for many years.

I really just started noticing parish mission statements on bulletins and websites for about a year now, so maybe that itself is a new development
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This is rather intriguing. I have never been parish priest of a parish that had a parish mission statement, actually. Did this occur to you in the United States?

Did he somehow incorporate this recitation into the bidding prayers? He could always make the faithful execution of the parish’s mission as a recurring intention of the bidding prayers or he could certainly recite it as the conclusion of his homily… I will have to ask my American confreres about this phenomenon. Interesting.
 
Parish mission statements seem to be the latest trendy thing, especially if a parish is launching a particular fundraising campaign beyond the regular collection.

There has been a lot of cross-over here in the Midwest (intentionally) between parishes and nonprofit groups in order to best leverage funding and make programs more efficient, etc. More and more parishes are turning to grants and campaigns to do most of their work outside of liturgy as dioceses and parishes struggle financially to stay afloat.
 
Cor_ad_Cor said:
Parish mission statements seem to be the latest trendy thing, especially if a parish is launching a particular fundraising campaign beyond the regular collection.

There has been a lot of cross-over here in the Midwest (intentionally) between parishes and nonprofit groups in order to best leverage funding and make programs more efficient, etc. More and more parishes are turning to grants and campaigns to do most of their work outside of liturgy as dioceses and parishes struggle financially to stay afloat.
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Good points. I can see more and more of these types of campaigning efforts. Many dioceses have serious debt issues.
 
Don_Ruggero said:
This is rather intriguing. I have never been parish priest of a parish that had a parish mission statement, actually. Did this occur to you in the United States?

Did he somehow incorporate this recitation into the bidding prayers? He could always make the faithful execution of the parish’s mission as a recurring intention of the bidding prayers or he could certainly recite it as the conclusion of his homily… I will have to ask my American confreres about this phenomenon. Interesting.
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Mission statements have become a “thing” in North America. I must say I’ve never heard one included in the Creed (or even the Bidding Prayers) before.

Here is my Parish’s mission statement from the bulletin:
*Under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, the Catholic Community of Our Lady Queen of Peace works to spread the Gospel message through a ministry of compassion, education, and outreach to others. Our life as believers is centered in the Eucharist which encourages and fosters a deep sense of identity in Christ Jesus and the mission the Lord Jesus calls us to embrace. *
Some mission statements are rather more controversial. One parish includes in its mission statement the following “We are a Discerning Community which, inspired and led by the Holy Spirit on a journey of Faith,encourages the gifts of individuals to flourish.” Sounds good until you see that one of their “Ministries” is an LGBT & Straight Alliance which lists that they celebrate their “gifts of spirituality and homosexuality.” I don’t know, but that seems to fly in the face the Catechism and Canon law.
 
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