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I was at mass last Sunday at a parish that is more liberal than I am used to. They omitted the Creed from mass and my fiance and I took notice and thought it quite odd. Is the priest at liberty to do this and what is the policy regarding asserting/reciting the Creed at Sunday mass? Any answers are helpful. Thank you and God bless.

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Good question. My experience has been that when we renew baptismal vows (for example when a baptism is celebrated at Mass) we do not also recite the Profession of Faith.

I have a copy of Jimmy Akin’s Mass Confusion and it quotes from the GIRM #44 where it says it cannot be omitted on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation. ewtn.com/library/CURIA/GIRM.HTM
GIRM_1975:
  1. Recitation of the profession of faith by the priest together with the people is obligatory on Sundays and solemnities. It maybe said also at special, more solemn celebrations.
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Yet in the new GIRM #68 usccb.org/liturgy/current/chapter2.htm#sect3b

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GIRM_2003:
  1. The Creed is to be sung or said by the priest together with the people on Sundays and Solemnities. It may be said also at particular celebrations of a more solemn character.
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but not quite with the mandatory quality of verbiage.

Is there a meaningful difference?
 
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jpusateri:
Good question. My experience has been that when we renew baptismal vows (for example when a baptism is celebrated at Mass) we do not also recite the Profession of Faith.
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It isn’t the Creed that is omitted it is the Penitential Rite when the Blessing with Holy Water and Renewal of Baptismal vows takes place. Annunciata:)
 
Thanks for the replies. There was no baptism or recitation of baptismal vows at the mass so I guess that our intuition was correct in that we ought to have recited the Creed as a congregation. That being said, I don’t know that there is any significant difference in the language used in the GIRM between the new version and the old one. As indicated, the recitation is manditory under the specified conditions, however, the language of the first GIRM quotation given seemed to reinforce that reality more clearly and emphatically. In short, I suppose that there is no literal difference in the two, yet I prefer the stronger language of the first quotation of the GIRM. Thanks.
 
And just a possibility, Is it possible the priest just forgot? Our priest, who thankfully, finally retired, was getting forgetful and forgot parts of the Mass. Not all the time, but just when his blood sugars got too low, (he is a diabetic). Even a young man can be diabetic. Just a thought.
 
Good thought. I hadn’t considered that possibility. The priest is a relatively young priest but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have forgotten it or some thing along those lines. The parish is a bit lax in other points of the mass as well so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Creed was not forgotten on accident - at the same time, I don’t want to assume the worst of that parish.
 
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Annunciata:
It isn’t the Creed that is omitted it is the Penitential Rite when the Blessing with Holy Water and Renewal of Baptismal vows takes place. Annunciata:)
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CORRECTION: Mea Culpa! I meant to say…
It isn’t the Creed that is omitted it is the Penitential Rite when the Blessing with Holy Water takes place at the beginning of Mass. Annunciata:)
 
It is possible the priest skipped over the Creed by accident. HIghly unlikely unless he lost his place in the altar book–it does happen though . But the Creed follows so naturally after the homily, it just seems natural there, can’t imagine forgetting it. Was it a Sunday mass or a weekday mass—I forgot to ask that.

I knew some Jahnkes in Germany. Know where your family came from? He was a physician in our little town in the Black Forest.
 
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majahnke:
I was at mass last Sunday at a parish that is more liberal than I am used to.
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The Creed is not very popular in these parishes. I almost laughed at the suggestions that the priest “forgot” the Creed. The Creed represents the profession of faith- which hinders each person forming their beliefs according to “individual conscience”. Moreover it is extremely offensive since it lacks inclusive language: ie: God the Father, For us men, he is worshipped and glorified, He has spoken through the prophets ect.
 
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