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Did christ die on the cross. or was he unconcious? was there then no ressurection ?
 
He died. Dead. Roman soldiers never left such things to chance. One even speared him to make sure! His resurrection is real.
 
Might I direct you to Catholic Answers forums fine ‘Faith’ selection in which you can **search **for the answers to your questions so that you can then ‘narrow’ them down somewhat? For example, a simple search of Christ’s death/ resurrection in the “Faith” section will give you a host of tracts and articles which treat the topic in quite a bit of depth. Then, after you have done some research with those, if your question is not sufficiently answered, come back and ask us the specifics. God bless.

I notice you have a similar thread you have opened asking about Jesus’ lost years. Again, you can find information by searching in the Library (Faith section), or in This Rock magazine articles. Good luck!
 
majister_faust said:
Did christ die on the cross. or was he unconcious? was there then no ressurection ?
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The correct spelling is: crucifixion

Christ died on the cross. Died as in “dead,” not "unconscious.

He was buried.

On the third day rose from the dead, which is the resurrection.
 
here is an example for you. Going to the “Faith” section (next to forums, above), I typed in the Quick Search box “Christ’s death” and many, many links to articles etc. appeared. Here is a selection from one of them, an article from This Rock magazine I believe in 1997, a portion of which is below and specific to the Resurrection:

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Jesus’ Resurrection and everything connected with it can be said to be the best recounted of all Gospel events, and the best testified to, as we can see from John’s Gospel. We should not forget that he was a personal witness of the death and subsequent burial of our Lord; he was the only apostle who stayed on Calvary and was present at the burial, until the entrance stone was sealed. He reports all the details which he considers basic to our belief. That, he says, is why he wrote his account–“that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name” (20:31).
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Because the Resurrection of Christ is the basis of the Christian faith (20:28), John takes the trouble to recount everything relevant to guaranteeing the historic truth of the Resurrection and to strengthening our faith–the discovery of the empty tomb (20:1-10), and the physical reality of the body of the risen Jesus, who three times lets himself be seen and touched by those who were to act as witnesses for all whom faith would later lead into the Church.
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Despite the little faith shown by the apostles (Thomas did not believe until he saw and touched Jesus), the facts are so overpowering as to make it impossible to deny that the Resurrection happened. John takes delight in describing the way the linen cloths and the napkin were when he entered the tomb behind Peter. When he saw them, “he saw and believed” (20:8). Up to that they had not understood the Scripture “that he must rise from the dead” (20:9). He gives great importance to the empty tomb and makes it very clear that the napkin was not with the linen cloths but in a place by itself.
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See?
 
One wonders if the typo in the thread title isn’t a Freudian slip on the part of the poster, but he now has the resources of the Library here and can search out the topic to his heart’s content.
 
Hiyas:)

Your user name speaks volumes. However, it is spelled Magister Faust…I assume you are referencing Doctor Faust.
Doctor is a term literally signifying teacher. In the middle ages, from the twelfth century, it came into use as a title of honour for men of great learning, such as Thomas Aquinas (Doctor Angelicus), Duns Scotus (Doctor Subtilis), etc. It was first made an academical title by the University of Bologna, and emperors and popes soon afterwards assumed the right of granting universities the power of conferring the degree in law. The faculties of theology and medicine were soon included, but for a long time the faculty of arts retained the older title of Magister, until the German universities substituted that of Doctor. The title of Doctor is in some cases an honorary degree, and in other cases (as in medicine and science) conferred after examination.
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John Faust was a German 16th century occultist. According to some accounts he was born in Suabia, others make him a native of Anhalt, others of Brandenburg. When he was sixteen years old he went to Ingolstadt and studied theology, became in three years a magister, but abandoned
theology, and began the study of medicine, astrology, and magic, in which he likewise instructed his familiar Johann Wagner, the son of a clergyman at Wasserburg. After John Faust had spent a rich inheritance, he allegedly, according to tradition, made use of his power to conjure up spirits, and entered into a contract with the devil for twenty-four years. A spirit called Mephistopheles was given him as a servant, with whom he travelled about, enjoying life in all its forms, but the evil spirit finally carried him off. Even yet John Faust and his familiar Wagner play a conspicuous part in the puppet-shows of Germany, and the legend forms the subject of Goethe’s great drama Faust, and furnishes the libretto for Gounod’s famous opera of the same name. As early as 1590 the legend was dramatically treated in England by Christopher Marlowe.
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In any instance a troll by any name… is a troll
 
majister_faust said:
Did christ die on the cross. or was he unconcious? was there then no ressurection ?
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He definitely had a resurrection.

Roman executioners knew when somebody was dead. But if in fact, He had only been onconscious and woken up in the tomb, He would have been in hideous physical condition. After all, He had bleeding wounds all over Him when He was brought down, and He received no treatment of the wounds or even fluids to ease His dehydration. And the wounds in His limbs would have made Him almost unable to move.

But when His followers see Him on Sunday, they see someone alive, moving around, and conversing with them. Not someone bleeding, disabled and half-dead. 3 days of unconsciousness in a closed tomb won’t heal a body that badly abused.

No, His friends knew what they were seeing; not the result of a failed execution, but LIFE that went right through Death and came out the other side.

ICXC NIKA!
 
1ke said:
The correct spelling is: crucifixion

Christ died on the cross. Died as in “dead,” not "unconscious.

He was buried.

On the third day rose from the dead, which is the resurrection.
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That wasn’t a misspelling but a sarcastic play on words.Isn’t he the clever boy:(:mad:
 
Hiyas:)

Does anyone who has this as their signature really seek answers?
man shall only be free when the last priest has been strangled with the entrails of the last king
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