The DaVinci Code opposition

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I was at first against this book because that’s what the Church said. And I obey the Church. But my mom was saying that it was okay to read the book and see the movie. She said that it is possible that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child. She said perhaps it just wasn’t mentioned in scripture, but that clues were left behind that could make this true. She said that believing this wouldn’t hurt anything in our faith.
So now I’m really confused. Does it matter if Jesus married and had a child? How can I defend myself against my mom? Or is there no need? I’m thoroughly confused. I think that it would matter, because if he did marry Mary Magdalene, that would mean our priests should be able to marry, too. Also, that would create offspring from our God.
Help! I’m confused and I need answers!
 
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holyspirit1985:
I was at first against this book because that’s what the Church said. And I obey the Church. But my mom was saying that it was okay to read the book and see the movie. She said that it is possible that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child. She said perhaps it just wasn’t mentioned in scripture, but that clues were left behind that could make this true. She said that believing this wouldn’t hurt anything in our faith.
So now I’m really confused. Does it matter if Jesus married and had a child? How can I defend myself against my mom? Or is there no need? I’m thoroughly confused. I think that it would matter, because if he did marry Mary Magdalene, that would mean our priests should be able to marry, too. Also, that would create offspring from our God.
Help! I’m confused and I need answers!
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Well, what would the child of God and a human being be? That would be weird. Second of all, there is absolutely no historical evidence at all to support this. Any credible historian agrees the theories in the Da Vinci Code is bunk. The Priory of Sion, for example, has been proven to be a hoax. Second, it would have been selfish of Jesus, knowing He would die young, to marry and then leave His child fatherless with a widowed mother. Finally, it’s about trust. Do you trust the authority Jesus Himself instituted, or do you trust modern novelists who are out to make a buck with shock value?

As a side note, priests in some rites of the Church can marry. There is nothing threologically wrong with priests marrying. Jesus says it’s better to be a celibate priest, however, so the Church (the Latin rite anyway) enforces this discipline, except in some special circumstances.
 
While I am not aware of any formal teaching about Jesus’ marital state, It is NOT ok for your mom or you to believe he married Mary Magdeline because there is no grounds for it in either Scripture or Tradition.

Scott
 
The most important two words: “IT’S FICTION!!!”

Next, “The Church” never banned the book. The Index is gone.

Further, though, priests in other rites cannot marry. Married men can be ordained as priests. Subtle difference.

John

PS: As far as the Bible not mentioning things, John sums it up perfectly:

Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. (John 21:25 NIV)
 
John Higgins:
The most important two words: “IT’S FICTION!!!”

Next, “The Church” never banned the book. The Index is gone.

Further, though, priests in other rites cannot marry. Married men can be ordained as priests. Subtle difference.
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John, you are right on target. Thank you for such a concise and correct summary of three rather common misconceptions.

I might add that the book is not only fiction, it is good fiction. I’m not talking about the subject, but the author’s ability to wrap a story around real things. Not unlike how “National Treasure” wraps a story around the people and places of American history. The fact that people ask “could this be true” is a sign of a good story teller.

I’ve read books that would be far more offensive to the Catholic faith than the Davinci Code, but none better written.

nohome
 
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Nohome:
John, you are right on target. Thank you for such a concise and correct summary of three rather common misconceptions.

I might add that the book is not only fiction, it is good fiction. I’m not talking about the subject, but the author’s ability to wrap a story around real things. Not unlike how “National Treasure” wraps a story around the people and places of American history. The fact that people ask “could this be true” is a sign of a good story teller.

I’ve read books that would be far more offensive to the Catholic faith than the Davinci Code, but none better written.

nohome
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While the book is a work of Fiction the problem lies with the fact that the author states that it is a work of Fiction based on Fact.

That can not be ignored.
 
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Nohome:
John, you are right on target. Thank you for such a concise and correct summary of three rather common misconceptions.

I might add that the book is not only fiction, it is good fiction. I’m not talking about the subject, but the author’s ability to wrap a story around real things. Not unlike how “National Treasure” wraps a story around the people and places of American history. The fact that people ask “could this be true” is a sign of a good story teller.

I’ve read books that would be far more offensive to the Catholic faith than the Davinci Code, but none better written.

nohome
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I’m sorry, but the IT’S FICTION cry is not going to fool anyone moving a smidgen of grey matter in their brains. People have recommended this book to the less knowledgeable with the clear nudge-nudge, wink-wink implication that it is true. When someone with knowledge calls them on it, they dive down their convenient escape hatch that it is just fiction.

Imagine someone writing a book of fiction in which the Holocaust was a hoax. IT’S FICTION would not fly with Jews, and it should not fly with Catholics regarding the DC.

Scott
 
well, i guess here is my question: why is it wrong to believe that Jesus married and had a child?
 
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holyspirit1985:
well, i guess here is my question: why is it wrong to believe that Jesus married and had a child?
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Jesus did marry - his bride is the Church.

To marry a mortal woman when He was betrothed to His Church would have been fornication and adultery.

So, in order to believe that He did such things, you have to also believe that He was sinful.

Elizabeth
 
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holyspirit1985:
well, i guess here is my question: why is it wrong to believe that Jesus married and had a child?
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Well, if the “Son of God” has a son and we believe the whole notion of “God in three persons”, then the son of the “Son of God” is the son of God (admittedly tough to follow). You create a continuous lineage of “gods” that does not fit neatly with the scriptures. How can Christ come again if he never goes away?

Nohome
 
Believe me, if Jesus had married, you would have heard about it long before now.

People who believe such stuff probably also believe that U.S. astronauts never went to the moon, and that Hell is located 500 miles below Topeka KS.
 
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holyspirit1985:
well, i guess here is my question: why is it wrong to believe that Jesus married and had a child?
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The main page has an article about this:
catholic.com/library/cracking_da_vinci_code.asp

Here’s a quote that sums it up pretty well (red color added by me):
Catholics should be concerned about the book because it not only misrepresents their Church as a murderous institution but also implies that the Christian faith itself is utterly false.
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That’s why it’s wrong to believe what DaVinci Code says.
 
Aunt Martha:
That’s why it’s wrong to believe what DaVinci Code says.
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Do you believe in Ewoks, Munchkins, Klingons, Rufus the Apostle? No? Why would you believe the clearly labelled fiction of DaVinci Code?

John
 
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JimG:
People who believe such stuff probably also believe that U.S. astronauts never went to the moon
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Hahaha, this one is my favorite conspiracy theory of all time. I don’t know if I buy it, but it is very intriguing and fun to get people riled up with. Where are the stars??? Why no dust kicked up during takeoff and landing? Why did the lander never have a successful test (I mean for the tests they gave it on earth) yet they went on with the mission anyway? Why are there lines of demarcation between foreground and background in the pictures? What about all those shadows that imply multiple light sources? How about the argument that the astronaut with all his gear on couldn’t actually fit out of the door of the lander? Why doesn’t Neil Armstrong ever talk about it?

By the way, I heard it was directed by Stanley Kubrick and you can see parts of the set in that one James Bond movie…
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John Higgins:
Do you believe in Ewoks, Munchkins, Klingons, Rufus the Apostle? No? Why would you believe the clearly labelled fiction of DaVinci Code?

John
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Because, there are actually many fictions based on fact–for example, many historical fictions are filled with historical facts. The daVinci Code’s author claims with a straight face that his novel is also based on and filled with facts. :nope:
 
John Higgins:
Do you believe in Ewoks, Munchkins, Klingons, Rufus the Apostle? No? Why would you believe the clearly labelled fiction of DaVinci Code?
John
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Genesis315:
Because, there are actually many fictions based on fact–for example, many historical fictions are filled with historical facts. The daVinci Code’s author claims with a straight face that his novel is also based on and filled with facts. :nope:
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Thank you!
 
People who believe such stuff probably also believe that U.S. astronauts never went to the moon, and that Hell is located 500 miles below Topeka KS.

Isn’t it?
 
Aw, you guys are no fun. Isn’t someone going to ask about Rufus the Apostle?

John
 
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