The dawn of the SuperMan: How will society respond?

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Imagine a being that had all the superpowers normally attributed to characters like the “Xmen”. Imagine this being was born in America. Imagine this being is going around giving out his or her own brand of justice as he or she saw fit.

How should society respond to such a being? How would you respond to such a situation?

I have always been a fan of the Batman comics, animation, and films (although most of the batman films are garbage), But as I have grown older I have come to the realisation that Batman is a nut-case. Who in their right mind would go around dressed up as a bat fighting crime?!!! The guy has got some serious psychological problems.
 
Imagine a being that had all the superpowers normally attributed to characters like the “Xmen”. Imagine this being was born in America. Imagine this being is going around giving out his or her own brand of justice as he or she saw fit.

How should society respond to such a being? How would you respond to such a situation?

I have always been a fan of the Batman comics, animation, and films (although most of the batman films are garbage), But as I have grown older I have come to the realisation that Batman is a nut-case. Who in their right mind would go around dressed up as a bat fighting crime?!!! The guy has got some serious psychological problems.
The wondrous thing about worlds like that is technically, anybody can one day develop their own super power. If you can’t get it through naturalized mutation, you can get it through artificial means (like Spiderman) or even gasps magic! Heck, even pure human intelligence is enough to get you either a super-suit of armor or a set of bat-themed gadgets.

Although on that note, that is actually what I’d do in a world like that. I’d find a way to get to that level. I don’t know about anyone else but the question remains: “If this guy can have powers, what’s to stop me or anyone else from finding our own?” It sounds scarily challenging and crazily optimistic but that’s how I’ll handle the situation.
 
I gave up reading Comic Books by the time I was 12 years old- in 1948…and I find programs like X men to be purile.
What I have never been able to understand is what is the big fascination with such juvenile fantasies, when there are so many, so much better movie and TV stories available?
Especially stories based on reality-which can be even more wierd than any of these fantisies!
I know some like vanilla, others chocolate, but this is like preferring MacDonalds hamburgers over a good juicy steak.
I guess it must be an adolescent thing.
 
In literature, it’s called a Mary Sue (or a Gary Stu if male).
 
What I have never been able to understand is what is the big fascination with such juvenile fantasies, when there are so many, so much better movie and TV stories available?
Especially stories based on reality-which can be even more wierd than any of these fantisies!
Reality? Fascinating? No, it’s boring. Deadpan. Monotonous. It’s like the daily, mindless commute that I take all the time. (Don’t believe me? Ask Tolkien.)

And no, stopping to smell the flowers doesn’t work in a city that doesn’t have them. Flowers are boring too anyways. Swaying about looking pretty? Oh joy.
I know some like vanilla, others chocolate, but this is like preferring MacDonalds hamburgers over a good juicy steak.
I guess it must be an adolescent thing.
Funny. I consider the opposite. It’s like preferring an adventurous hike through uncharted realms over a game of kick the can.
 
Imagine a being that had all the superpowers normally attributed to characters like the “Xmen”. Imagine this being was born in America. Imagine this being is going around giving out his or her own brand of justice as he or she saw fit.

How should society respond to such a being? How would you respond to such a situation?
Depends…is that person’s “Brand of Justice” compatible with local laws? Assuming its not and assuming people in general find it detestible, then i would expect a plot to develop to neuter this person’s power.
 
Depends…is that person’s “Brand of Justice” compatible with local laws? Assuming its not and assuming people in general find it detestible, then i would expect a plot to develop to neuter this person’s power.
I developed a new twist on these ideas.
In a story I’ve written, Theresa acquires limitless global power. There is no resisting her, although somebody might try to kill her.

Here’s the twist. After doing wonderful things for the benefit of the human race, Theresa retires from public life. She has no interest in politics or a new world order.
Heads of state realize their good fortune and don’t ask her to change things. They leave her alone.
 
I gave up reading Comic Books by the time I was 12 years old- in 1948…and I find programs like X men to be purile.
What I have never been able to understand is what is the big fascination with such juvenile fantasies, when there are so many, so much better movie and TV stories available?
Especially stories based on reality-which can be even more wierd than any of these fantisies!
I know some like vanilla, others chocolate, but this is like preferring MacDonalds hamburgers over a good juicy steak.
I guess it must be an adolescent thing.
ah…yeah. Can you please answers the question in the OP please. This is not a debate about whether or not it is mature to enjoy comic books.
 
Interesting thread; when I was a kid up to my early 20’s I often thought of the animated super heroin of the mid 1960’s “Space Ghost”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Ghost

Many later years whenever I gave that heroin a thought, I thought was being childish.

Can’t remember the exact quote in the Spiderman movie, something about Peter Parker’s father saying before he died: "With Great Power comes Great Wisdom or is it Humility. 🤷

Thankfully I’m glad I’m no heroin possessing super-powers.
My own human weakness gets me in enough trouble.
 
Interesting thread; when I was a kid up to my early 20’s I often thought of the animated super heroin of the mid 1960’s “Space Ghost”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Ghost

Many later years whenever I gave that heroin a thought, I thought was being childish.

Can’t remember the exact quote in the Spiderman movie, something about Peter Parker’s father saying before he died: "With Great Power comes Great Wisdom or is it Humility. 🤷

Thankfully I’m glad I’m no heroin possessing super-powers.
My own human weakness gets me in enough trouble.
It’s “With great power comes great responsibility”.
 
Imagine a being that had all the superpowers normally attributed to characters like the “Xmen”. Imagine this being was born in America. Imagine this being is going around giving out his or her own brand of justice as he or she saw fit.

How should society respond to such a being? How would you respond to such a situation?
If they were acting “as the see fit” and not in accord with the laws of society, I should hope society would respond to a being by putting them in jail If, however, this being were acting in accord of the laws of the land, I should hope that society would respond with applause.
I have always been a fan of the Batman comics, animation, and films (although most of the batman films are garbage), But as I have grown older I have come to the realisation that Batman is a nut-case. Who in their right mind would go around dressed up as a bat fighting crime?!!! The guy has got some serious psychological problems.
Of course Bruce Wayne is a nut-case. What kid whose parents were murdered in front of him would turn out sane? And that is exactly the point of the whole Batman series. Wayne saw injustice face to face, in a way that most of us never will and it changed him very deeply.
 
If they were acting “as the see fit” and not in accord with the laws of society, I should hope society would respond to a being by putting them in jail If, however, this being were acting in accord of the laws of the land, I should hope that society would respond with applause.
I think that you assume here that Legal law equals Moral law. It is not always wrong to be civilly disobedient.
Of course Bruce Wayne is a nut-case. What kid whose parents were murdered in front of him would turn out sane? And that is exactly the point of the whole Batman series. Wayne saw injustice face to face, in a way that most of us never will and it changed him very deeply.
I don’t think that just because you have a great motivation to stop crime, or that your parents are murdered, you are going to be crazy. You are more likely to be.

I think a good question would be whether or not we can trust a vigilante, which is exactly what Batman is.
 
I think that you assume here that Legal law equals Moral law. It is not always wrong to be civilly disobedient.
Why would you assume that? Morally, we citizens are called to stop criminals. Legally, we have the power to do so as well in the form of citizen’s arrest. If we do not comply with the citizen’s arrest law, then we can certainly face prosecution.
I don’t think that just because you have a great motivation to stop crime, or that your parents are murdered, you are going to be crazy. You are more likely to be.
I do not think one must be crazy to stop crime, otherwise several of my relatives who are police officers would be crazy in that opinion. I do think, however, witnessing a murder would lead to some psychological issues. Aside from that, I was speaking the specific case of Bruce Wayne, and not trying for a broad generalization.
I think a good question would be whether or not we can trust a vigilante, which is exactly what Batman is.
I think one can trust a vigilante who shows that he/she is doing justice within the confines of the law, i.e. capturing criminals and turning them over to the police. If the vigilante is just killing criminals, then they certainly should not be trusted.
 
There are a few insuperable problems with society vs real superheros as I see it.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume a valid superhero with real superpowers (unlike some people who want to live the life so badly that they go around dressing up as superheros: Real-life superhero, but who don’t actually have any superpowers).

The first problem is one of targeting. Assume there is a crime occurring somewhere in town. Superman doesn’t have a problem finding such an occurance, he has super-hearing. All he has to do is listen. The police don’t have a problem finding crimes either, because people call them in. If the superhero doesn’t have super-hearing, and nobody is calling in crimes or disasters to him, how will he know something is going down until long after the fact? Does he wait to read about it in the paper, see it on TV, or hear about it on the radio?

The second problem is the negative reaction of the police. The superhero has not been trained in arrest procedures, nor does he have any place to put his villain after he stops him. Leaving the villain tied up for the police would probably accrue a charge of kidnapping or false imprisonment for the would-be superhero. The police will probably not take kindly to interference in police business, and any slip-up, like pepper-spraying the wrong person, will result in a lawsuit. This isn’t a problem for Spiderman or Superman because they typically take off after either leaving the villain enmeshed in webbing or knocked out cold. Nobody can catch them or do anything about it either. Most other comic-book superheros are the same way, but any diminution of one’s powers of escape would leave one vulnerable to police anger and irritation, to say nothing of litigious victims of any mistakes. Also, comic-book cops simply take Superman’s word for it that so-and-so is a crook. In real life, it wouldn’t work that way. Superman would have to fill out a complaint or other paperwork.

Police too have problems with litigation against them, but the city goes to bat for them. That’s a pretty big deal, to have a city, county or federal government behind you.

A third problem is the mismatch between the superhero and the villain. If there was actually a superhero with real honest-to-goodness superpowers, who would he fight? The local crackhead? A shoplifter? A crooked politician? A spray-paint vandal? Most villains would be very much outgunned by a real superhero, so much so that such a mismatch would be laughable rather than a source of drama. Lex Luthors are rather scarce in the real world, to say nothing of characters like Doctor Octopus, the Green Goblin, or the Parasite (able to steal Superman’s powers with a touch). Real police work is more like being an orderly for a psychiatric hospital, or a social worker, than it is like being in one gunfight after another. Lots of cops never have to draw their guns in anger for their entire careers.

The takeaway from this is that society won’t have to respond to comic-book-like scenarios because they will never arise, or at least not in the foreseeable future.

In the more distant future, in 10,000, 100,000, or 1,000,000 years from now, perhaps there will be some issue like this that really could arise, but it’s also likely that everything else will be so different by then that we wouldn’t even be capable of grasping most of the ancillary issues, thus we cannot say how a society in the far future would respond.
 
I gave up reading Comic Books by the time I was 12 years old- in 1948…and I find programs like X men to be purile.
What I have never been able to understand is what is the big fascination with such juvenile fantasies, when there are so many, so much better movie and TV stories available?
Especially stories based on reality-which can be even more wierd than any of these fantisies!
I know some like vanilla, others chocolate, but this is like preferring MacDonalds hamburgers over a good juicy steak.
I guess it must be an adolescent thing.
Well aren’t you a stodgy old grump. I happen to be a fully functioning member of society and I find fantasy worlds to be fascinating. And they don’t all have the same formula you seem to attribute to them…have you ever read Tolkien? I’d guess not. How about Frank Herbert? Probably never heard of him. If you really view the world in the manner that you put forth in your post then I pity you.

Oh, and PS: “purile” isn’t a word. Sorry, had to do it 😉
 
We discussed this in a PoliSci class once. Batman is just a vigilante - a one-man lynch mob - and he really has no business doing what he’s doing. Especially if you watch the movies, he really does a lot of harm and potential harm. I remember one scene where he was riding his (enormous) motorcycle through the halls of a building trying to catch up to someone, while people leap out of his way. Well, what if there just happened to be someone in the way who couldn’t leap out in time? Old lady, person in a wheelchair, someone on crutches, small child, person looking the other way…they’d simply be run over.

So while Batman is cool to think about and make movies and comics about, someone like him would never work in society, and if someone tried to they should be stopped because they’re only going to endanger themselves and other people.
 
I saw the title and thought more of Nietzsche’s concept of the Superman. I’m partway through reading GK Chesterton’s “Heretics”, and several of his contemporaries who he discusses (GB Shaw, HG Wells) seem very taken by the Superman. Chesterton kinda turns this on its head, the Superman isn’t really to be admired… the Superman can’t be truly brave, because he is strong. It’s the little guy who can be brave, precisely because the odds are against him. Very interesting.
 
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