The death and resurrection controversy

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Most of Christianity professes that Jesus was crucified on a Friday, Some say Thursday, and a small few say Wednesday. Who is speaking a truth according to the Law and the testimony (Spirit of Prophecy) since not all can be telling a truth from God, yet all build their perception on the bible NT (Roman Doctrine).

There is one study that exhists which presents each view from Christian history objectively against the very Passover Law Prophecy that Jesus claimed to fulfill. What is revealed is amazing and left to you the reader to draw your own conclusions after testing all of what Christian history has to reveal on this topic in comparison to the Passover Law Prophecies.

thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection%20for%20catholics.pdf

Hope you enjoy the study

God Bless
 
Feel free to invite your friends to read and comment on the material that has taken 3 years to compile to cover this topic from Every denominational percption in concert with the very prophecies concerning the Lamb that Jesus apparently fulfilled.

I look forward to discussion on this topic and it is the season for it.

God Bless
 
It’s a lot of information with speculation (some based on personal interpretation) woven throughout. It doesn’t seem to focus on any point other than some kind of fingerpointing at the Catholic Church for… something, I’m not sure what.

And the conclusion:
Here are quotes from Roman History which affirm the institution that changed the Holy Sabbath day ―4thcommandment‖, and that there is no evidence in the bible to support the Change by ―word of God.‖ Could this be evidence of part of the mark of the beast? You decide. Jesus warns us of the traditions of men. This is clearly a tradition of men.
If this had happened in 48AD instead of in the 4th century, would the claim still be valid, given that there were no NT Scriptures extent, at least not collected at that point? How did Christians decide anything then without a written Bible to refer to? It can’t simply be laid at the feet of the Apostles, as they spread out and could not be everywhere. Knowing that, they appointed Bishops who had authority to make decisions even though there was no KJV1611 available.

Why is it that when the people with the authority to do so (a Council of Bishops in this case) effect a change, that automatically translates into an act of men, and therefore - possibly, maybe quite possibly - the “mark of the beast?”

Do those in reformed faiths make decisions in their churches? Can all of them be traced directly to Scripture (like what songs the choir will sing this Sunday {not Saturday}), or are they all acts of men, and sticking strictly to the offered logic, possibly marks of the beast as well?

At some point, no matter the denomination, there must be a person, a group, someone in authority to make decisions and focus or maintain doctrine or else you have spiritual anarchy. Those Bishops in Laodicia (sp?) could at least trace their authority back to the Apostles in a succession. Who, authoring this study, can do likewise? If not, does it then qualify as mark-of-the-beast work, or is it something else?
 
It’s a lot of information with speculation (some based on personal interpretation) woven throughout. It doesn’t seem to focus on any point other than some kind of fingerpointing at the Catholic Church for… something, I’m not sure what.
The quote in question goes in line with the very first verse on the very first page in concert with the overall presentation that the Laws of Moses reveal that the original passover Lamb died on a Wednesday as well as Jesus in accordence with the Laws of Moses.

With Rome changing times and laws as they claim in this below quote, it has kept hidden the true time line of the Passion week as well as the time spent in the heart of the earth. I’m quite sure this below quote is Catholic doctrine.

“The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ.” “The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ.” Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris’ Ecclesiastical Dictionary."

So what you are claiming is a speculation is really a perception built on a great deal of evidence illustrating prophecy fulfillment.

The above quote from Catholic doctrine would have been available to you but was contained on the pages deemed hateful Catholic slander by other members of this forum. those pages are unavailable to this forum.

Please illustrate a page number from the study pages 1-37 where a speculation is given based on the evidence presented as I make no statements deemed speculation with out providing the Catholic Doctrine to back up my words and perceptions…

Below you ask a very important question!
“How did Christians decide anything then without a written Bible to refer to?”

It’s true the Christians were reliant on the writings and doctrines of men due to lacking the outpoured spirit of God that was given to the Jews on the day of Pentacost. The Jews who followed in the way, truth, and life were preaching truth about God From God. The Christians mearely attempted to record the truth being delivered by the men of the Way the truth and the life. Men who were born again according to the spirit just as Jesus was born again on the day of his baptism fulfilling the prophecy of Psamls 2:7 and the Daniel 70 weeks prophecy which points to the point in earth history when Messiah the Prince would come.

When the Jewish Prophet Agabus went to antioch to meet the first men to call themselves Christians, he immediately prophecied famine through out all the world. The Christians perceived this as a physical famine yet the prophet was referring to spiritual famine. men lacking the annointing spirit of the Christ. hence began the time of many anti-christ decievers who went out into the world.

Page 43 illustrates how to identify an anti-christ deceiver (person lacking the spirit of Christ within that Jesus promised his true followers).

Regarding the Spiritual Head, Jesus said it best when he spoke these words which are verified from an Ancient written source on page 33

And Jesus said unto them, Ye have heard what men in the world say concerning me, but whom do ye say that I am? Peter rose up with Andrew his brother and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God, who descendeth from heaven and dwelleth in the hearts of them who believe and obey unto righteousness. And the rest rose up and said, each after his own manner, These words are true, so we believe. And Jesus answered them saying, Blessed are ye my twelve who believe, for flesh and blood hath not revealed this unto you, but the spirit of God which dwelleth in you. I indeed am the way, the Truth and the Life; and the Truth understandeth all things. All truth is in God, and I bear witness unto the truth. I am the true Rock, and on this Rock do I build my Church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it, and out of this Rock shall flow rivers of living water to give life to the peoples of the earth. Ye are my chosen twelve. In me, the Head and Corner stone, are the twelve foundations of my house builded on the rock, and on you in me shall my Church be built, and in truth and righteousness shall my Church be established. And ye shall sit on twelve thrones and send forth light and truth to all the twelve tribes of Israel after the Spirit, and I will be with you, even unto the end of the world. But there shall arise after you, men of perverse minds who shall through ignorance or through craft, suppress many things which I have spoken unto you, and lay to me things which I never taught, sowing tares among the good wheat which I have given you to sow in the world. Then shall the truth of God endure the contradiction of sinners, for thus it hath been, and thus it will be. But the time cometh when the things which they have hidden shall be revealed and made known, and the truth shall make free those which were bound. One is your Master, all ye are brethren, and one is not greater than another in the place which I have given unto you, for ye have one Master, even Christ, who is over you and with you and in you, and there is no inequality among my twelve, or their fellows. All are equally near unto me. Strive ye not therefore for the first place, for ye are all first, because ye are the foundation stones and pillars of the Church, built on the truth which is in me and in you, and the truth and the law shall ye establish for all, as shall be given unto you. Verily when ye and your fellows agree together touching anything in my Name, I am in the midst of you and with you. Woe is the time when the spirit of the world entereth into the Church, and my doctrines and precepts are made void through the corruption of men and of women. Woe is the world when the Light is hidden. Woe is the world when these things shall be.

Thanks for your current feedback and God Bless.
 
And Jesus said unto them, Ye have heard what men in the world say concerning me, but whom do ye say that I am? Peter rose up with Andrew his brother and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God, who descendeth from heaven and dwelleth in the hearts of them who believe and obey unto righteousness. And the rest rose up and said, each after his own manner, These words are true, so we believe. And Jesus answered them saying, Blessed are ye my twelve who believe, for flesh and blood hath not revealed this unto you, but the spirit of God which dwelleth in you. I indeed am the way, the Truth and the Life; and the Truth understandeth all things. All truth is in God, and I bear witness unto the truth. I am the true Rock, and on this Rock do I build my Church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it, and out of this Rock shall flow rivers of living water to give life to the peoples of the earth. Ye are my chosen twelve. In me, the Head and Corner stone, are the twelve foundations of my house builded on the rock, and on you in me shall my Church be built, and in truth and righteousness shall my Church be established. And ye shall sit on twelve thrones and send forth light and truth to all the twelve tribes of Israel after the Spirit, and I will be with you, even unto the end of the world. But there shall arise after you, men of perverse minds who shall through ignorance or through craft, suppress many things which I have spoken unto you, and lay to me things which I never taught, sowing tares among the good wheat which I have given you to sow in the world. Then shall the truth of God endure the contradiction of sinners, for thus it hath been, and thus it will be. But the time cometh when the things which they have hidden shall be revealed and made known, and the truth shall make free those which were bound. One is your Master, all ye are brethren, and one is not greater than another in the place which I have given unto you, for ye have one Master, even Christ, who is over you and with you and in you, and there is no inequality among my twelve, or their fellows. All are equally near unto me. Strive ye not therefore for the first place, for ye are all first, because ye are the foundation stones and pillars of the Church, built on the truth which is in me and in you, and the truth and the law shall ye establish for all, as shall be given unto you. Verily when ye and your fellows agree together touching anything in my Name, I am in the midst of you and with you. Woe is the time when the spirit of the world entereth into the Church, and my doctrines and precepts are made void through the corruption of men and of women. Woe is the world when the Light is hidden. Woe is the world when these things shall be.

Thanks for your current feedback and God Bless.
Where did this heretical quote come from?
And do not forget my friend. Jesus did not leave us a bible. He left us His Church. A Divine institution.
I was a protestant. Now I’m home. I pray that one day you shall return too.
May God have mercy on all our souls. And God bless you – you are searching for the truth and putting more effort into it than I.
 
‘For your ears are closed, your eyes are blinded, and the heart is hardened,’ Jeremiah has cried; yet not even then do you listen. The Lawgiver is present, yet you do not see Him; to the poor the Gospel is preached, the blind see, yet you do not understand. You have now need of a second circumcision, though you glory greatly in the flesh. The new law requires you to keep perpetual sabbath, and you, because you are idle for one day, suppose you are pious, not discerning why this has been commanded you: and if you eat unleavened bread, you say the will of God has been fulfilled. The Lord our God does not take pleasure in such observances:

But we do not trust through Moses or through the law; for then we would do the same as yourselves. But now or I have read that there shall be a final law, and a covenant, the chiefest 200 of all, which it is now incumbent on all men to observe, as many as are seeking after the inheritance of God. For the law promulgated on Horeb is now old, and belongs to yourselves alone; but this is for all universally. Now, law placed against law has abrogated that which is before it, and a covenant which comes after in like manner has put an end to the previous one; and an eternal and final law—namely, Christ —has been given to us, and the covenant is trustworthy, after which there shall be no law, no commandment, no ordinance. The new law requires you to keep perpetual sabbath, and you, because you are idle for one day, suppose you are pious, not discerning why this has been commanded you…many more passages rebutting Sabbath Day keeping in the writings of Justin Martyr.

Needless to say, it’s pointless to go into frivolous arguments with Seventh Day Adventist of Millerite movement of the 1840s formed in upstate New York as noted in the chart as so much has been written to refute their false doctrine.

This site is a refutation of Sabbatarians by one of their own Kerry Wynne “Adventists are having a much more difficult time keeping the TRUTH about the Adventist ‘truth’ from its own members and prospective converts”

bible.ca/7-twist.htm
 
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