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twinc
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Adam and Eve were created sinless and so in the image and likeness of God and so we were but are not now in the image and likeness of God - any comments - twinc
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Apollos
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They and their descendants are still in the image of God. Sinlessness is not an essential component of the image; an intellectual nature and the capablility of reproducing oneself are:
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fhansen
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Certainly we lost something of the divine nature, which He desires we partake in now, which is what the redemption is all about. Theosis, or the “divinization” of man is a Catholic teaching. Looking around-and within-I think its fairly obvious few of us are reflecting Gods glory very well.
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grannymh
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Catholic teaching is that Adam was created in original holiness. Original holiness is far more than being sinless. It defines God’s relationship with Adam in that God established Adam in His friendship. In his human nature, Adam united the spiritual and material worlds. Because of this profound and unique unification of spirit/matter, human beings are created in the image of God in that we can share, by knowledge and love, in God’s own life. Amazing!
Catholic teaching is that human nature, per se, did not change into something else. We, as the human descendents of Adam, continue to have his human nature and thus we are created in the image and likeness of God. Original Sin did not destroy human nature. Original sin wounded human nature. Very, very big difference!
Blessings,
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Basic Catholic teaching **regarding Adam and Original Sin ** is found in the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, ISBN: 1-57455-109-4
Paragraphs 355-421.
The good news of Jesus Christ follows in Paragraph 422, etc.
One can put the word paragraph and the number in the Catechism’s search bar in link www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
Entering topics, like Adam, is also very useful.
When you enter a paragraph number, like “paragraph 355”, and then click on the opening line, CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 355 you will see the following under the paragraph:
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rcjones
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Well, Genesis 1 God says he will create them in his image and likeness, but he only makes them in his image. We don’t find them in his likeness until chapter 5. In between there is a hidden picture of Christ in sensus plenior which explains that Christ is the express image of God, and his bride is made like him. So together they are the image and likeness of God.
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magdelaine1173
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Thank you granny, this is very good to know.
Blessings be upon you
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( John 3:16) ''For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him might not perish, but have eternal life.
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twinc
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What is not considered here as elsewhere is The Fall as if nothing really serious happened or matters.Imho Adam and Eve were created in the image and likeness of God.We are now in the fallen image and likeness of fallen Adam[see Gen.5:3] and fallen image and likeness is not the same as image and likeness imho - twinc.
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grannymh
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I found Genesis 5: verses 1 and 2 very meaningful in light of Genesis 1: 26-27.
Regardless of how one applies the word fallen, the human person can still be said to be made in the image and likeness of God – according to Catholic teaching. Human nature, per se, was wounded not totally corrupted. It is because we are in the image and likeness of God that we can share in His own life through knowledge and love. Amazing!
Blessings,
granny
The human person is the apple of God’s eye.
(example of reality and figurative language)
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twinc
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Genesis.5:1-2 apply to humans before the fall,whereas Gen.5:3 applies to humans after the Fall - there is a big difference.What you seem to be saying is that God is made in our image and likeness which is great for an inflated ego but doesnt say much for God - twinc
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fhansen
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Both views have elements of truth. We’ve lost much but still retain the divine image in some manner. From the CCC:
**357 Being in the image of God the human individual possesses the dignity of a person, who is not just something, but someone. He is capable of self-knowledge, of self-possession and of freely giving himself and entering into communion with other persons. And he is called by grace to a covenant with his Creator, to offer him a response of faith and love that no other creature can give in his stead.
1701 "Christ, . . . in the very revelation of the mystery of the Father and of his love, makes man fully manifest to himself and brings to light his exalted vocation."2 It is in Christ, "the image of the invisible God,"3 that man has been created “in the image and likeness” of the Creator. It is in Christ, Redeemer and Savior, that the divine image, disfigured in man by the first sin, has been restored to its original beauty and ennobled by the grace of God.4
1702 The divine image is present in every man. It shines forth in the communion of persons, in the likeness of the unity of the divine persons among themselves (cf. chapter two).
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twinc
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As was so well put in explanation " the ruins and half upright pillars still show forth the glory that once was Greece" - so we as fallen,ruins and half upright humans still show forth the glory that once was ours in Adam - to which we shall be restored in Christ - twinc
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grannymh
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May I suggest checking out paragraphs CCC 355 and 356 for the key issue regarding human nature. To understand the full meaning of the “Fall”, one should read CCC 355 - 421.
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