The Divine Mother?

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(First, sorry if this is in the wrong place. I don’t really know where this would fit.)

Okay, so I have a rosary meditation book that takes parts from St. Padre Pio’s letters as the reflection for the particular meditations, and for the nativity, the meditation starts out as

“The divine Mother enters the stable adoring the devine (sic) designs and with her husband Joseph she settles in a corner, together with him in profound prayer, in the highest contemplation.” (Epistles IV, pages 870)

Last time I checked, Our Lady isn’t divine. I also can’t find a copy of his letters online, so I can’t find out if this is a bad translation or a typo or what.
 
The word “divine” does not always refer to, “a diety.” It’s most probably not saying that Mary is a goddess. In this case, it probably just means, “heavenly” or “holy,” or even simply, “supremely good.” (Compare it to something like, “my neighbor is a divine cook.”)

HTH. 🙂
 
CatholicRaven said:
The word “divine” does not always refer to, “a diety.” It’s most probably not saying that Mary is a goddess. In this case, it probably just means, “heavenly” or “holy,” or even simply, “supremely good.” (Compare it to something like, “my neighbor is a divine cook.”)

HTH. 🙂
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However in my humble opinion it is better to refrain from using the word divine in the context of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
 
Definition of divine: Of, from, or like God.

Mother Mary is from God, made without the stain of sin. She is the masterpiece of God’s creation.

In rosary-center.org/glorious.htm, at the Coronation she is made Queen of Heaven and earth.

" – As Mary enters heaven, the entire court of heaven greets with joy this masterpiece of God’s creation.
– Mary is crowned by her divine Son as Queen of heaven and earth.
– More than we can ever know the Hearts of Jesus and Mary overflow with joy at this reunion.
– Only in heaven will we know the great majesty of that coronation, and the joy it gave to the angels and saints.
– Even the angels, who by nature are greater than humans, hail Mary as their Queen.
– Mary shares so fully in the glory of Christ because she shared so fully in His suffering.
– Only in heaven will we see how central is the role of Mary in the divine plan of redemption.
– The angels and saints longed for the coming of her whose heel crushes the head of the serpent.
– Mary pleads our cause as a most powerful Queen and a most merciful and loving Mother."

Where Jesus is Mary is. They are inseparable.

She IS divine by the gift She received from God Himself.

+JMJ+
 
paduard said:
However in my humble opinion it is better to refrain from using the word divine in the context of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
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Why? Just because many people only know one definition of a word, doesn’t mean another definition of the same word shouldn’t be used or isn’t appropriate. I’m all for augmenting a person’s word-hoard! 👍 😃

Besides, I doubt it was all that confusing to Padre Pio’s originally-intended reader(s). And if it was, I’m pretty sure he’d have cleared it up for them. 😉
 
CatholicRaven said:
Why? Just because many people only know one definition of a word, doesn’t mean another definition of the same word shouldn’t be used or isn’t appropriate. I’m all for augmenting a person’s word-hoard! 👍 😃

Besides, I doubt it was all that confusing to Padre Pio’s originally-intended reader(s). And if it was, I’m pretty sure he’d have cleared it up for them. 😉
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Why? - because it is bad theology to start with. And over here it used to be an opportunity for many Protestants to accuse Catholics of giving the same status of adoration to the Blessed Virgin as that which is due solely to Almighty God.

God Bless.
 
paduard said:
Why? - because it is bad theology to start with. And over here it used to be an opportunity for many Protestants to accuse Catholics of giving the same status of adoration to the Blessed Virgin as that which is due solely to Almighty God.

God Bless.
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How is it “bad theology” to call Mary “holy,” “heavenly,” or “supremely good”? :confused:

I understand that we should select our words carefully depending upon our audience and what we are trying to communicate to them. So I would agree that it’s not always a good word choice for what we want to convey to our intended audience, particularly Protestants who may misunderstand our intended meaning. However, you seemed to be saying that no one should ever use it regarding Our Lady, even when the term is used to mean “holy, heavenly” or “supremely good,” and the audience is aware of that intended meaning (as was likely the case in Padre Pio’s letters). That’s all I was questioning.

No offense intended. 🙂
 
When Padre Pio wrote “divine Mother” he chose his words poorly.
He should have written “Mother of God”.
Mary was the vessel through whom Jesus received a human body, but Jesus was a divine person, not a human person. So Mary is called the mother of God.

That’s all there is to it. 😃
 
I immediately assumed “Divine Mother” meant mother of a divine thing.

Like the Divine Liturgy. This liturgy is not divine, but it is a liturgy in which the divine is involved.
 
empther said:
When Padre Pio wrote “divine Mother” he chose his words poorly.
He should have written “Mother of God”.
Mary was the vessel through whom Jesus received a human body, but Jesus was a divine person, not a human person. So Mary is called the mother of God.

That’s all there is to it. 😃
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:eek::eek:
Jesus is fully a human person and fully a divine person!
 
Jesus is fully a human person and fully a divine person!
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:bigyikes: :bigyikes:

Jesus was two persons?
“That would make him some kind of monster.”
— Father Brian Mullady, on EWTN, in a series about Christ

While Jesus has a human soul and body, he was not a human person. He was a divine person.
It was only because he was a divine person that his sacrifice on the cross had the infinite penance to atone for our sins, satisfy justice, and redeem us. A human person could not do this.

Virtually every priest in the world who hasn’t developed Alzheimer’s will tell you this.
 
empther said:
:bigyikes: :bigyikes:

Jesus was two persons?
“That would make him some kind of monster.”
— Father Brian Mullady, on EWTN, in a series about Christ

While Jesus has a human soul and body, he was not a human person. He was a divine person.
It was only because he was a divine person that his sacrifice on the cross had the infinite penance to atone for our sins, satisfy justice, and redeem us. A human person could not do this.

Virtually every priest in the world who hasn’t developed Alzheimer’s will tell you this.
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Oops 😊😊 I misunderstood what you were trying to say with “person.”
 
he was not a human person. He was a divine person.
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Thats actually wrong. (Maybe it’s our use of “person”) Jesus is a person that has two natures, divine and human, which he is both fully. For more on His Hypostatic Union, see here
 
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