And the RNC might contradict the teachings of certain religions. What are you trying to do here? If you’re trying to make a push for conservatism, you’re already on a board that is largely conservative. Regardless, this isn’t supposed to be a political message board, but lately, it seems more political than religious. The few here with a more liberal lean (such as myself) are finding it hostile.
The one who is engaged in cheap threats here is you. You come here as a Republican to threaten people with their immortal souls if they don’t vote the way you want them to.
I’ve already provided the official statement of the DNC that is contrary to Catholic faith and morals. People keep saying that the RNC is the same, but no one is providing the official statement by the RNC to support this empty claim.
This is about religious and moral questions. Abortion is a moral teaching of the Church, and relativism is contrary to the Catholic faith.
The teaching of the Church is the teaching of the Church. Don’t shoot the messenger.
I think the claim that the RNC and the DNC are the same has a lot to do with an apprehension that both are just expressions of the two fundamental aspects of the modern liberal state: market liberalism (i.e. free markets) and social/political liberalism (i.e. what Zizek calls “multiculturalist tolerance”). And for the most part, the one gives rise to (while simultaneously appearing to oppose) the other. It’s difficult to be a social liberal without benefitting from market liberalism. It’s difficult being a market liberal without necessarily producing the conditions within which social liberalism will (naturally) grow and thrive.
But it does matter for Catholics considering membership. And the only way to determine this objectively is with an organization’s official statement of their policy and agenda. As long as an organization’s official policy is not contrary to Catholic faith and morals, there’s no problem with a Catholic being a member. The problem with the DNC is they officially oppose the Catholic teaching on human sexuality and aggressively promote their relativist dogmas even to the point of taking legal actions against the Catholic Church, standing in the way of her mission to help the poor. This puts a Catholic in the position of trying to serve two opposing masters if they are a member of the DNC. If this bothers some who are Catholic and members of the DNC, there’s a simple solution - leave the DNC.
Who knows? Perhaps liberal libertarians are just waiting in the wings…
The teaching of the Church is the teaching of the Church, and you have no magisterial document telling Catholics not to vote for Democrats, do you?
Send me a private message. There is such a thing starting up now.
The DNC’s official policy on subjects such as abortion and “same-sex marriage” amounts to moral relativism and contradicts the Church’s teaching with regard to faith and morals. Signing on as a member implies agreement with that official core policy. It’s the same principle as why Catholics can’t join the Masons. Jesus said you can’t serve two masters.
The membership of the Democratic Party is not bound by the platform, nor are its candidates.
living, what I mean to say is that the extent to which one articulates Catholic faith and morals via the instruments and apparatus of the modern liberal state is the extent to which one abandons the principles behind Catholic faith and morals and capitulates to the ideology of the modern liberal state. That ideology does not have anything real to do with Catholic faith and morals, however much they may appear to coincide. In particular, the modern liberal state is founded upon and oriented toward a profound relativism with regard to the market and to the social/political sphere which is characterized (more or less) by an impulse toward an atomizing and ultimately alienating individualism.
How about the RNC’s consistantly pro-death penalty stance? seems to run counter to Church teaching (from The CCC):
I don’t think you understand how politics works – it’s always the art of the practical. Both sides are doing what they can practically do to further their own ends. It’s always a jokeying for a good position for the next election.
I am no fan of the Republican Party, but what you just wrote is simply a lie. You know that nowhere does the RNC “officially” teach that ‘some innocent life is more sacred than others’. No one is so stupid. What you meant to say is that by implication it appears obvious that at least the executors of RNC policy hold a hypocritical double-standard, because of X, Y and Z; to claim, however, that in their “official position” exists a patent contradiction is, itself, absurd - but not, I admit, impossible.
That may be so, but please produce actual examples of the RNC engaging in moral relativism: they do in fact engage in it but you have yet to produce an actual example of it.