The DNC's moral relativism

[Deo_Volente]

Grace & Peace!

It seems to me that conservatives which are mostly republican are for the most part striving to conserve christian historical values, while liberals who are for the mosst part democrates, are striving to be liberated from historical traditional Christian values. Take for example the democratic party position on abortion, gay behavior, ect.

I used to think that the situation was more like this: that “consevatives” are trying to make the present conform to an imagined and idealized past while “liberals” are trying to remake the present according to an imagined and utopian future. Either way, the present suffers.

Lately though, thinking of the “divide” in terms of market liberals and social liberals seems more elucidating. Both sorts of liberals are embarked on the same project: the maintenance of the modern liberal state. Both are ready to employ religious values to serve their ends whenever needful, knowing that in the process they will remake religion in the image of the liberal state…and very few will actually bother to notice, or if they do notice, they’re relatively happy to get with the program. Neither are particularly interested in recognizing the existence of a fundamental Good exterior to the ideology of the liberal state–the recognition of such a Good would require a radical re-evaluation of both market and social liberal values, which is to say, it would require a de-relativizing of both the market and the social sphere. That’s not likely to happen any time soon, however.

Under the Mercy,
Mark

All is Grace and Mercy! Deo Gratias!

 

[JackQ]

Could you please put up a thread or post about the thing you were discussing? It sounds very interesting.

I think that would be better handled if you sent me a private message.

 

[andrewstx]

That’s not true. Conservatives such as Rick Santorum were fighting for the life of Terri Schiavo while liberals were the ones who made damn sure that she was put to death. And Obama is taking full credit for the death of Osama bin Ladan, so they are not against the death penalty. The DNC’s idea of helping the poor is to get rid of them through abortions. They make the cost of living so high that all we will be left with is the rich while the rest become slaves to the welfare system. Hollywood liberals, DC liberal politicians and the super rich liberal elites talk about saving the environment while flying around everywhere in jets. The DNC doesn’t have the moral high ground anywhere.

And the RNC does? Just yesterday in the Midland Reporter Telegram, a very conservative paper from Bush’es home town, their was an article telling how Ryan’s plan was condemned by the Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The RNCs idea of helping the poor is to tell them “you are on your own, sink or swim”.
They think laisse-faire will save everyone while re-naming LF as “free enterprise”. What a stroke of propagandic genious. If you oppose laissez-faire you oppose freedom.

 

[Dredgemate]

Quoting what is perhaps the single most controversial teaching found in the CCC to defend your position would not seem to be the wisest policy. That teaching is nowhere claimed to be infallible and the Church’s Tradition and past Teaching itself provide a consistent contrary example. At best, such is a Vatican policy.

The Church had nearly two-thousand years to inform Christendom that the practise of putting certain offenders to death (such as traitors, murderers and the like) was evil or immoral. She never did.

Further, it’s absurd to argue that at any time it was somehow impossible or even impractical to jail or confine people for life: it was always possible. Jails, dungeons and guards were never wanting and certainly never impractical or impossible in any period since at least the time of Christ; nay, for even a long time before that.

So the Church is practicing relativism, too?

 

[livingwordunity]

And the RNC does? Just yesterday in the Midland Reporter Telegram, a very conservative paper from Bush’es home town, their was an article telling how Ryan’s plan was condemned by the Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The RNCs idea of helping the poor is to tell them “you are on your own, sink or swim”.
They think laisse-faire will save everyone while re-naming LF as “free enterprise”. What a stroke of propagandic genious. If you oppose laissez-faire you oppose freedom.

There was no official letter from the bishop read at Mass about the Ryan plan, so I don’t see the comparison to the DNC’s relentless attacks on religious liberty which has been loudly condemned by 100% of the US bishops.

 

[andrewstx]

Too bad you allow far-right politics to get in the way of your faith

 

[livingwordunity]

Too bad you allow far-right politics to get in the way of your faith

It’s too bad you have to resort to cheap personal attacks rather than being able to prove that what I said is not the truth.