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I’ll apologize in advance; this is going to be long! I’m a former zoo keeper who is now working in wildlife, so I love to help people with pet problems, but I’m a little long-winded. We’re a young couple as well, so trust me, I feel you’re budget constraints and long hours at work! We have 2 pups, and here are some budget-friendly tips that can help:

First of all, reading up on anxiety will help you understand more about why your dog does what she does. These articles are nice and short, and addresses some of the comments on here about dog anxiety (such as why another dog may not be the best option):

cesarsway.com/dogbehavior/fearandanxiety/Leaving-Your-Dog-Home-Alone
humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/tips/separation_anxiety.html

Remember that you and your husband are her only living companions, so it’s both stressful and boring to be away from you so long! When my fiance and I have long work-weeks, our dogs go nuts. In fact yesterday was one of those days, and one of them ate a magazine WHILE we were home just because she could!

A set routine including exercise and training will help your dog immensely. Routine is the key word there, because she knows you’re leaving, and she knows you’re coming back! We go on a fast-paced, intense, 30-minute morning walks. It’s hard to get out of bed at first, but I found it refreshing. Plus I feel safe out in the early morning light rather than late at night. While I’m fixing my breakfast, I have them sit, stay, lay down, hand me their paw, speak, roll over, etc, then feed them breakfast. They like the mental stimulation and stay focused on listening to me since I have the food. I like that they don’t bug me while I’m eating too. I do this at the same time every morning, and our dogs have responded really well to that consistency.

Our big dog is anxious, so we have “safe places” for her in the house. Her cage is one such place, and while she is there nothing bad can ever happen, no matter what she ate. No yelling, no forcing her to go there, and no “scary things” enter that area while she is there. We reward her with her treats and her favorite toys for going to her crate, but don’t make a big deal about her leaving it. In doing this, she voluntarily goes to her crate to sleep at night, and naps in it during the day; door open and all. We began crate training by giving her treats when she would come near it when we called. We added blankets she liked and toys to the crate, and when she went in, rewarded her heavily. We she decided to come out, we didn’t react for the first couple of minutes (otherwise, leaving her crate would feel more like leaving jail). We continued to do this until it was a “happy place”. We got her from a shelter, and this reduced her left-over anxiety from there pretty quickly. You can do this with a room, a bed, whatever area your dog likes! You can do it in small steps too to get her used to you leaving. Once she’s comfortable in the area (perhaps a room), close the door for 10 seconds and see if she stays calm. Resist the urge to talk to her, since it would interrupt her calm behavior. As soon as she starts to grow anxious, open the door, and make no reaction for the first minute or two. Play for a bit, then bring her back into the room. Give her a treat, and leave. Repeat until you can leave her for a bit longer each time. It helps establish the mindset of “it’s okay, my owner is coming back and I like this place.”

When we get home, we actually ignore our dogs (no talking to them or looking at them) until they are relatively calm (so think how you would like her to act when a guest comes over…no jumping or barking). This helps them not to go crazy when we have guests, and to not sit around all day anticipating our return. It’s just part of the routine; nothing to go crazy about. When they’re calm, we pet and great them. After work, we do walks, when possible (and still comfortably light outside), fetch outside, tug-o-war, etc. I’m sure you do this already. If I’m swamped and have no time, I’ll throw a ball down the stairs for a game of fetch for 15 minutes while I’m cooking dinner. It’s a really tiring game for them!

I rotate their toys to keep it interesting, but I hold out on the best ones. They make puzzle toys for dogs:
petsolutions.com/C/Dog-Puzzle-Toys.aspx
Those ones are expensive, but sometimes they come up at a decent price from this site (free shipping from here!):
doggyloot.com/
I also “make” some of my own stuff, but only give them to them when I can keep an eye on them. Empty peanut butter jars are awesome. Let them lick it clean, then poke a few holes in there big enough for food to escape! Fill it up with their dinner so they have to roll it around to get the food out. Plastic water bottles, old butter containers, cereal boxes can all be used the same way. It’s a little clean-up, but I would rather pick up cardboard shreds than pieces of my carpet.

If your dog is friendly, the local dog park can be fun and stimulating for your dog!

Here are a few ideas for cheap dog-walkers and classes:

1.) In high school and middle school, my friends walked dogs in their subdivision for pennies of what it would cost to hire a “professional”.
2.) I took an animal behavior class in undergrad. The students in there were pretty good at training, but didn’t have the reputation of established trainers in the area. To build up their resume, they offered dog training classes at like 5 or 10 bucks a class, and consulted on the side. Search on craigslist, or if you’re in a city, see if the local college has an animal behavior-type or vet program. You may be able to email the professors and have him/her see if any of the students are interested in giving you a couple of classes. Flyers work too.

I know this is a small novel, but I hope some of it is helpful!
 
Thank you for your responses.

I moved from a nice neighborhood near my parents who could watch my dog while I was away and where I could walk her three times a day to live with my husband. We do not live close to anyone, and there have been assaults in our neighborhood lately. Because of this, my husband does not like me out in the dark, nor do I like being out in the dark. With it being light out more often, I can walk her more now though. I am also trying to play with her more to get out some of her energy.

We cannot afford a dog walker or doggy daycare. Those expenses are just out of the question.
You will need to pray for a miracle. Your dog will never be able to adapt. I understand that you cannot walk him at night and this is why, i suggest that you pray for a miracle. Can your mother adopt the dog? This dog needs to exercise and play, it won’t be enough otherwise.

When human sit on the coach, we can become coach potatoes and lazier and lazier. A dog is the opposite, their energy built up and they will literally explode.

If you cannot walk him at night, can you wake up early and do this, until you figure something. Can your husband walk the dog for you at night?

You have no choice then to figure out something.

I pray for you!
 
I’ve worked in Greyhound adoption for many years.
Greyhounds are never alone, from birth to racing, they are ALWAYS around other dogs. And for most of them, they do fine alone. But some of them have what is called **separation anxiety **when they are left alone.
There are many things to try, a dog walker, doggie day care, cubes and balls that keep them busy licking out the treats and such.

But what we found works miracles is often another dog.

For example, Winston was a 85 pound greyhound. He was adopted and in the first 6 months did the following: destroyed a very large sturdy crate, breaking off teeth in the process. He ate 10 window sills. He tore down 10 sets of mini blinds and curtains (several times over) he ate most of the wood work in the house. He peed and pooped every where every day. We worked with the adopters and tried every thing we could think of and did huge amounts of research. Finally they needed to keep him with me (I was his former foster Mom) for a weekend to do some home repairs. I put up my cam on the computer and left Winston with my pack and out the door I went. The camera showed that he never moved from the bed he was sleeping on. He rolled over a few times, but in the 1 hour I was gone, he never even really opened his eyes.
When they picked him up, they also picked up one of my fosters, Olivia. And Winston turned into the perfect greyhound. He never had another accident in the house, never tore anything up and never got into anything ever again. He needed that dog. We tried to get them to either return him or get him a companion and they just didn’t believe that another dog would stop all this crazy behavior, but it did, and it took them jumping in with faith and getting another dog.

Please, if more dogs were crate trained, there would be far less dogs given up to kill shelters because they potty in the house or they chew the house apart. Crates can be a wonderful tool in helping your dog learn to live with his family. Many dogs prefer the crate to the couch (with the doors open.) But 11 hours without a break is too long for a dog to be in a crate routinely, occasionally yes, but not every day.

But with severe separation anxiety even an hour in a crate alone is too much.
I suggest you see the vet. There are drugs out now that can help him to become less anxious, but you have to work with him too to get him to rethink being alone. Drugs are not a fix all alone, they must be used with behavior modification.

If you decide to re-home your dog, please be very very careful… avoid Craigs list like the plague if you can. I know that it can devastate a dog when you re-home them. Find a rescue that has a good reputation. Don’t give the dog away unless you know the people. Please, he’s been a part of your family. Don’t give him to just anyone who can then sell it to a lab or use it to bait pit bull fighting. PLEASE be very cautious.

And I don’t know what kind of dog you have, but yes, there are homes and folks who want 6 year old dogs. Lots of older folks just don’t have time for puppy stuff, or they can’t deal with puppy stuff, and they are often home all day. So it’s possible to find her a home, you just have to look. And it might take a while, which is why I suggest a no kill rescue group. Call the vets, call the humane society, they can help by directing you to a group. And don’t wait until the dog has a day to find a new place to live… give the group a little time, they might need it before they can take you dog in.
 
And I don’t know what kind of dog you have, but yes, there are homes and folks who want 6 year old dogs. Lots of older folks just don’t have time for puppy stuff, or they can’t deal with puppy stuff, and they are often home all day. So it’s possible to find her a home, you just have to look. And it might take a while, which is why I suggest a no kill rescue group. Call the vets, call the humane society, they can help by directing you to a group. And don’t wait until the dog has a day to find a new place to live… give the group a little time, they might need it before they can take you dog in.

If you do decide to re-home her, DO give it a little time to look for someone- through your vet, friends, whatever. When I adopted, I specifically wanted a 4-6 yr old dog who was done with the puppy stages and a bit more mature.
 
If you do decide to re-home her, DO give it a little time to look for someone- through your vet, friends, whatever. When I adopted, I specifically wanted a 4-6 yr old dog who was done with the puppy stages and a bit more mature.
Me, too. I have a newfoundland and a year ago I adopted a 5 yr. old basset hound because I am done with the puppy stage.

I also have a crate for the basset. She loves it. I keep the door open and it’s her own place for when she needs space from the newf who weighs 125 lbs.

When these dogs are gone, I will surely look for another adult dog. So much easier than a puppy.

OP, I think your best bet is to try to find an new home for your dog. You’ve got a lot on your plate with the new baby coming. And your dog is very lonely. Another place to place an ad would be at nearby kennels. Lots of dog lovers there.
 
I don’t think right before having a baby is the time to take a gamble on another dog. Probably best she try to find a home where this dog can join a pack instead of adding to the chaos in her home 🙂

OP- call around to people you know that have property. Sounds like it might be a good fit as an outdoor ranch dog.
Just offering a solution, not the only solution. This advice was given to me by the vet for our ‘new’ 6 year old Australian Shepherd with separation anxiety. I see some other people on here agree. OP…look into it. 2 calm dogs is way better that 1 hyper one that you can’t trust alone, and if it doesn’t help…at least you did due diligence. And JackieMom, The OP is the one to determine what course to take, not you. You shooting down good advice is not helpful no matter how many smiley faces you add.
 
Just offering a solution, not the only solution. This advice was given to me by the vet for our ‘new’ 6 year old Australian Shepherd with separation anxiety. I see some other people on here agree. OP…look into it. 2 calm dogs is way better that 1 hyper one that you can’t trust alone, and if it doesn’t help…at least you did due diligence. And JackieMom, The OP is the one to determine what course to take, not you. You shooting down good advice is not helpful no matter how many smiley faces you add.
If it doesn’t help, she has two dogs to rehome or euthanize. I know a lot of people who had to get rid of a second dog because the first one didn’t like it or because the two dogs fought. Sorry, with a new baby coming, a husband that is fed up, a tight budget and an existing pet dog with severe behavior problems, I strongly disagree with your suggestion to increase the number of dogs in the home. And obviously the OP is the one who decides what to do. She asked for advice and we gave it, and she can take it or not. You don’t need to get snippy and personal when someone points out (in a friendly way, no less) the risks associated with a suggestion you made.
 
gh4 has given the best advice.

Dogs need companionship and 11 hours in a crate is much too much alone time.

Find a reputable rescue organization who will find your dog a loving home geared to her needs ( maybe retired folks who are home alot).

And don’t get another dog until your life circumstances mean you’ll have the time to spend with it and the energy to deal with any issues.

Wishing you the best of luck and God’s Blessing.
 
If it doesn’t help, she has two dogs to rehome or euthanize. I know a lot of people who had to get rid of a second dog because the first one didn’t like it or because the two dogs fought. Sorry, with a new baby coming, a husband that is fed up, a tight budget and an existing pet dog with severe behavior problems, I strongly disagree with your suggestion to increase the number of dogs in the home. And obviously the OP is the one who decides what to do. She asked for advice and we gave it, and she can take it or not. You don’t need to get snippy and personal when someone points out (in a friendly way, no less) the risks associated with a suggestion you made.
I only get snippy when singled out. All the suggestions have down sides. There is no perfect solution to this problem. The ‘final solution’ you keep suggesting is the worst. A new dog is much easier to part ways with than a long time friend. Sounds like there is still a little time before the baby arrives, so the risks of trying a new dog would be minimized. We have 4 kids…one 9 months old…2 cats. I wouldn’t have offered a suggestion based on no experience with the EXACT same problem. And, like I pointed out, I’m not the only person to have gone through this and offered the solution of another dog…but you jumped back in to slam my advice. Dogs are not people…they need a pack. When the human pack is either too busy or gone out of the house, they still need a pack. Shoving the dog outside has plenty of downsides as well. The dog is still going to be left alone too much and get into all sorts of mischief. Constant barking, getting off leash and running around, lost all together and winding up in the pound, hit by a car, complaining neighbors, all that poop, etc… A young stressed out family sure does not need those headaches! I’d say re-homing may the best idea so far. We found our 6 year old dog on craigslist. We went to all the shelters, but…nothing but pit bulls and chihuahuas. No thanks.

Also…I didn’t catch what kind of dog this is, but there is this thing called a thundershirt that is supposed to help anxious dogs.

What does Cesar Milan have to say?

Anyway…JackieMom…yes I’m snippy today. Seems like every time I post in any family life area I get beat up by the women.
 
gh4 has given the best advice.

Dogs need companionship and 11 hours in a crate is much too much alone time.

Find a reputable rescue organization who will find your dog a loving home geared to her needs ( maybe retired folks who are home alot).

And don’t get another dog until your life circumstances mean you’ll have the time to spend with it and the energy to deal with any issues.

Wishing you the best of luck and God’s Blessing.
Good advice, IMO.
 
Also…I didn’t catch what kind of dog this is, but there is this thing called a thundershirt that is supposed to help anxious dogs.
I’ve heard really good things about the thundershirt. It won’t be a “magic bullet” so to speak, but it may help calm her down!
 
Something to try. I saw at my natural food store and a magazine that they have this special out fit (like a blanket), that help animal that are stress out to calm down. They also have herbs that will help the animal to relax.

Best of lock with this!
 
The great thing with dogs is that you can always start fresh.

I adopted an adult dog with some really bad issues (agression and biting), and I had to try several approaches before I found something that worked.
My family understood that I wanted to keep him and give him a chance, and they cooperated. Some things he will never be able to do, but he is a wonderful loving member of our family. My boyfriend (now husband) and my in-laws had to make an effort, too.

So if the things you tried before don’t work, don’t hesitate to just start over and try something new. There is a lot of advice available free on internet forums about dogs and pets in general, they can be a really good place to talk to someone and find people who have had similar experiences and found ways of dealing with this issue.
 
I just feel terrible for your poor dog—your best friend. How can you possibly expect an animal to not mess in the house when he can’t get out to the yard to relieve himself ? Just imagine if you had to wait for someone to allow you access to the bathroom and they were gone for 11 hours and then they locked you in a cage for 11 hours where you can barely stretch your legs. This is insanely cruel. Do you not see this, how cruel this is?

Since you can’t afford the slightest option for your dog your best friend, then take him to the vet if you cannot find a loving suitable home and have him put to sleep.

This is the kindest choice you can make for your best friend.
 
I just feel terrible for your poor dog—your best friend. How can you possibly expect an animal to not mess in the house when he can’t get out to the yard to relieve himself ? Just imagine if you had to wait for someone to allow you access to the bathroom and they were gone for 11 hours and then they locked you in a cage for 11 hours where you can barely stretch your legs. This is insanely cruel. Do you not see this, how cruel this is?

Since you can’t afford the slightest option for your dog your best friend, then take him to the vet if you cannot find a loving suitable home and have him put to sleep.

This is the kindest choice you can make for your best friend.
I agree with all you say except about putting her dog to sleep as the kindest option. The OP should make the effort to rehome her poor dog.
 
Yes that would be the best option. It is just so sad because I’m sure the op wants what is best for the dog and has found herself between a hard spot and a rock.

However, my real sympathies are with the dog.
 
My sympathies are with the dog because it is the height of cruelity to crate a dog (a pack animal) for 11 hours a day for 4 days/week and on top of that expect him to not lose his mind and tear his crate up, tear the carpet up. This is not his fault.

Imagine yourself being in a cage and kept away from family and interaction and then be expected to not mess in the house? OP is he being reprimanded for tearing things up, his cage, the stairs, the carpet BECAUSE you and your husband don’t have the time for him and are not being responsible pet owners?

Either find a loving home for him where the owners will treat him fairly or put him down. You are slowly making this poor animal lose his mind by this ill treatment and this is why he is being destructive. Imagine how he feels—he USE to be YOUR best friend. I imagine as your best friend he can remember you being a kind owner, petting him, talking to him, taking him for walks and now that world is gone and he is isolated, rejected by his owner being the outcast in the “pack”. This is so unfair to this animal on so many levels is hard to know where to begin.

Monicatholic: Do you honestly need to have this explained to you. Are you not able to see the absolute cruelty of this situation ? Would YOU treat YOUR best friend like this? To call the dog your best friend in one sentence and then to use the term “get rid” of him in the next like a bag of trash. Have you ever been to the shelter to see a dog literally being dragged to the chamber and the rest of the dogs trembling in fear because they can smell death. Did you know that? Did you know that they can actually sense death? If horses with a brain the size of a walnut standing in a kill pen at the slaughter house start to tremble uncontrollably because they can hear the horses screaming inside and smell the blood then surely a dog, a best friend senses death too.

Sometimes an owner cannot keep their animal any longer and they have to find a new home for them-----then do it! The shelters are splitting at the seams because of owners turning their animals in. But stop talkng about it and above all else stop caging this poor animal for 11 hours and expecting him to be a good doggie!

OP: If you live anywhere in SC/NC contact me.
 
Being in the crate is not fun, but I doubt that it’s making the dog lose it’s mind.
However, there are certainly better options than crating for 11 hours a day.

One of the greyhounds I adopted (at the age of 6) was a casualty of divorce. Cali had been being crated about 23 hours a day with only an hour out each evening and 2 potty breaks during the day and this had been going on for about a year. She was the coolest dog and was not one bit crazy. But when they gave her to our adoption group, I was her foster and that only lasted for about 2 days before I knew she wasn’t going anywhere. So it won’t drive em nuts, but it’s certainly not the best. And she loved to recline in her crate with the door open for the rest of her days! BTW, I had Cali for 9 more years, she lived to be over 15, a great accomplishment for a greyhound!

The reason I feel so bad for this dog is that it’s probably going to lose the owner it adores. And it’s going to either die or have to acclimate to a new owner at best, or only goodness knows what’s going to happen to it at the pound.
I believe that adopting a dog is adopting the responsibility for that dog for the remaining days of the dogs life.

I’m curious to know what kind of dog this is and what the OP did with the dog when she worked before she got married… Usually separation anxiety doesn’t just rear it’s ugly head when a dog is 5 or 6, it’s usually there from the beginning.
 
Monicatholic: Do you honestly need to have this explained to you.
yes. i honestly do. because i never anthropomorphise animals-- even my beloved dog Cora.

crating the dog for 11 hours a day is hardly " the height of cruelity." it’s a pretty bad plan. but the dog was freaking out when it wasn’t crated, too.

furthermore, i don’t know if dogs can “smell death.” but i DO know they CAN NOT contemplate their lives. no dog ever thought, “gee. things ain’t what they used to be.”

OP, if you can’t find a rescue for your dog’s breed, have your dog put down. nobody needs those problems. maybe in your area there’s a vet who will do a housecall euthenasia/ removal so your dog is home when it dies.
 
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