Like I wrote earlier, science has become another tool to promote an ideology. Apparently, if someone is taught the wrong age of the earth, they won’t be able to drive a car or operate a cell phone or tie their shoes. The (secular) apocalypse will be upon us.God bless,Ed
I’ve really only ever met one young earther. It was while i was working at a Christian school. I told him that his theory just doesn’t add up. But he was stead fast in his belief. He also didn;t believe in aliens ( which is fair enough) I told him i believed in aliens. I said if God is as powerful as they say. Why would he only make us? I think someone as intelligent and as powerful as him would have made many worlds with life on them. He saw the reason for this. But on the young earth thing. He wouldn’t budge. Thing is. Even though we were just groundsmen. He was a very intelligent man. Very bright. He was studying to be a lawyer and was acing his exams. ( Yeah yeah. I know that being a lawyer isn;t a sign of great intelligence.)
Catholic Bishop Robert Vasa of the Diocese of Bend, Oregon, seems now to be a young earther.
Larkin31, you could, I suppose, include a disclaimer at the beginning of the textbook to the effect that all chemical reactions should be regarded as taking place under the immediate supervision of the Intelligent Designer.
It doesn’t; dogma is the province of religion, not science.
StAnastasia, you are right. Catholic dogma is in the province of religion, that is, faith and morals. A good example is the dogma of the two sole parents of the human species. This dogma is primary for those who practice Catholicism.
Ed, you did not answer this question, the suggestion for which came from your earlier post.
I suspect they bring it up so often because like the Ussherite “fundamentalists” who firmly “believe” in the 6000 year age of the earth they firmly “believe” that main stream science of our period of time has figured out when, and now only need millions of more years to go figure how “nature” or “God” did it from a common ancestor. And so they can’t tolerate ANY competition.
No, just that science teacher should be fired for disseminating an obvious untruth (young earth) for the purpose of promoting Christianity. Why do you suggest that we should promote scientific ignorance?
please provide some of these linksThere are several good web sites where scientists with ID report on their progress in the field of biology that confronts the evolutionary fairy tale of life from a common ancester. There are of course many evidences for a 2000 - 100,000 times younger earth than billions of years based on hard scientific data as well. It’s just hard to to get that data into the media or into University discussions due to the blackout policy of academia.
Larkin31, in addition to the matter of dishonesty there is the problem of curricular time. The science teachers with whom I consult complain that the school year is already too short for the curriculum, and that if they are required to devote part of it to retreading the old ground of ancient cosmologies this cuts even further into their instructional time. Their students are short-changed and unprepared for higher education; they may even not be accepted to graduate schools, as happened to Kansas studnnts after the 1997 school board fiasco.
Grannymh, you persist in misunderstanding me: I am not out to snatch away your Adamic dogma – keep it!
Fortunately, there is no such “blackout policy” here. I’d like to see the “many evidences” for a much younger earth. Thanks.
Hear, hear! Bring it on! Bring out your 6,000 year-old Antarctic ice cores!
Be glad to do so. go to www.ARN.org There are other web sites noted there such as Discovery Inst. mentioned in the left column. And they also promote books for home schooling parents to use. I have sent this web site to my seven children all of whom now have children either in public or Christian schools.
So much to sort through…
I did answer the question. By giving students a ‘false’ age of the earth, they will not go on to design airplanes that fly, or computer programs or circuits, and fail in quantum mechanics.
Hugh,I suspect they bring it up so often because like the Ussherite “fundamentalists” who firmly “believe” in the 6000 year age of the earth they firmly “believe” that main stream science of our period of time has figured out when, and now only need millions of more years to go figure how “nature” or “God” did it from a common ancestor. And so they can’t tolerate ANY competition.
Also pride enters the picture: modernist theologians and friends think they are so much smarter than the Bible thumpers that they are attempting to stamp out the religious belief of a young earth to the point where their scientism will not be impeded by any opposing religious belief.
Somewhere in between the above religious beliefs may be the answer but needs the light of day to progress. ID with Professor Michael Behe et al. was a start but notice how quickly they got labeled as Creationists by the scientism group as expemplified by “Saint A.” But they needed ACLU.
There are several good web sites where scientists with ID report on their progress in the field of biology that confronts the evolutionary fairy tale of life from a common ancester. There are of course many evidences for a 2000 - 100,000 times younger earth than billions of years based on hard scientific data as well. It’s just hard to to get that data into the media or into University discussions due to the blackout policy of academia.
Ed, if I were an agnostic or a marginal atheist who regarded religion as a harmless delusion, it is people like you and Hugh Miller and Prieldedi and Cassini who would harden my attitude. I might conclude that if you represented religion, we could no longer tolerate it – we would simply have to stamp it out.