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phil19034
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Ok, but he still can’t skip the creed.
And you should not least Priests by name in this context here
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And you should not least Priests by name in this context here
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pianistclare
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So…this is turning into a “my parish priest is worse than yours” thread. Oh joy. Cant be part of it, bye y’all.
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TheOldColonel
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Sounds like a major abuse. Write your bishop ASAP.
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casslean
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Mine is delightful. I feel blessed that we have him, especially since lots of parishes in our diocese don’t have a resident pastor. And when he does something I don’t understand, rather than assuming I know his job better than he does, I just ask him about it. And he explains. And we both learn.
It’s a remarkable system we have going on.
It’s a remarkable system we have going on.
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tad
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No, we haven’t determined that.
Has anyone else been to an Easter Vigil where the OT readings have been rewritten?
Has anyone else been to an Easter Vigil where the fire is started inside the church some where in the middle of the service?
Has anyone else been to an Easter Vigil recently where they confirmed a 6-year old?
No,in my short life as a Catholic I’ve never seen or experienced the Easter Vigil done like this. This is not how it’s supposed to be.
Has anyone else been to an Easter Vigil where the OT readings have been rewritten?
Has anyone else been to an Easter Vigil where the fire is started inside the church some where in the middle of the service?
Has anyone else been to an Easter Vigil recently where they confirmed a 6-year old?
No,in my short life as a Catholic I’ve never seen or experienced the Easter Vigil done like this. This is not how it’s supposed to be.
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JulianN
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I’ve been to many Easter Vigils where a 6-Year-old was confirmed. It’s not an abuse.
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JamalChristophr
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I like going to the Cathedral for Easter Vigil sometimes. It’s nearly impossible to go wrong there.
I’m afraid or honest enough to say that if I really don’t like the way liturgy is being practiced beyond a certain threshold or find the priest insufficiently orthodox, I’ll simply attend a different parish. I’m blessed to have a great parish where I’m at right now.
I’m afraid or honest enough to say that if I really don’t like the way liturgy is being practiced beyond a certain threshold or find the priest insufficiently orthodox, I’ll simply attend a different parish. I’m blessed to have a great parish where I’m at right now.
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Xanthippe_Voorhees
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- not allowed, your gripe is legitimate
- stupid, to the point of Darwin’s award but not forbidden
- they confirm 7-9 yo in my friends diocese. Occasionally a random 6 yo. This is not even a thing to be in a tizzy about. It’s not only legitimate but if the child reacted the age of reason, advisable.
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twf
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Tad, why can’t you go to the vigil elsewhere? It’s obviously causing you pain to participate in the vigil at your home parish. Offer that pain up and then find a parish that offers a vigil that lifts you up. Move on.
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JamalChristophr
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Most people cannot easily do this, of course, as they are invested in the parish in many ways. (But that is a different thread topic.)
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tad
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I’ll watch it on TV. I just have a certain attachment to my home parish. It’s where I was confirmed, it means a lot to me. Things change, I’ll get over it.
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jtavington
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Well, make sure you attend an Easter service.
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twf
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You’ll get to Mass on Easter Sunday then at least?
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tad
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My wife have a custom of going to the Cathedral for Sunday mass for the same reason. 
I know how you feel, I think that’s why we’re bouncing around a little bit over here.
I know how you feel, I think that’s why we’re bouncing around a little bit over here.
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tad
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Oh yeah. I’m signed up to serve mass with my pastor. This might be the last time. He’s 88 years old and retiring after 62 years of ministry,
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twf
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Beautiful. Very few priests serve as pastor to such a venerable age. There was a local priest who was pastor into his late 80s. Last I checked he was still the Judicial Vicar - into his 90s now.
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phil19034
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What do you mean by “rewritten”? If this is the United States, the priest is only allowed one translation. If this is another nation, then there could be two or three Scripture translation options. However, he can’t rewrite the Scriptures. He can (unfortunately) skip some OT readings at the Easter Vigil.
the fire can be indoors. Our Cathedral does the fire inside because we don’t have a lot of land there, and an open fire would be an issue in the city. It may not be ideal, but it’s not wrong.
while rare in the United States, this is not an issue. If the child goes through RCIC, then they are supposed to receive all three at the same time. But there are SOME places where they will not confirm if the kid is younger than the age the cradle Catholics are confimed… really depends on what the kid is taught. Note: Eastern Catholics are confimed as babies.
The only thing that sounds WRONG is re-writing the Scriptures. Other things may or may not be typical/ideal, but they do not sound “wrong.”
Need more info.
God Bless
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LoyalViews
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I know three “Fr Brian’s.” I guarantee you there’s probably about seventy to each episcopal province. I even knew a “Fr Brian O’Brien” but he’s long gone, rest him and bless him.
OP, if I were you, I’d get a copy of the GIRM and give it to him and say “look, Father, this is what you signed up for. This is what you’re to do. You’re a Catholic priest and this isn’t cut and paste. Either you obey the commandments of the respectful offering for liturgy, or you don’t.” See what he says. If he doesn’t, take it to the bank…the bishop.
There’s a priest in our diocese who is prone to doing this. He doesn’t mention the pope or the bishop in the Eucharistic prayer, he omits parts of the Mass such as the penitential rite, the post-Communion prayers, the collect even, sometimes, if he finds the “wording is inappropriate.” Wouldn’t know but he was St Jerome reincarnate.
But at the end of the day, these men are consecrated men. They deserve our respect, and our prayer, but even a gentle correction sometimes doesn’t go amiss as long as we understand that we are below them, in our theological knowledge and position of power. Many lay saints have been known to have corrected their priests.
OP, if I were you, I’d get a copy of the GIRM and give it to him and say “look, Father, this is what you signed up for. This is what you’re to do. You’re a Catholic priest and this isn’t cut and paste. Either you obey the commandments of the respectful offering for liturgy, or you don’t.” See what he says. If he doesn’t, take it to the bank…the bishop.
There’s a priest in our diocese who is prone to doing this. He doesn’t mention the pope or the bishop in the Eucharistic prayer, he omits parts of the Mass such as the penitential rite, the post-Communion prayers, the collect even, sometimes, if he finds the “wording is inappropriate.” Wouldn’t know but he was St Jerome reincarnate.
But at the end of the day, these men are consecrated men. They deserve our respect, and our prayer, but even a gentle correction sometimes doesn’t go amiss as long as we understand that we are below them, in our theological knowledge and position of power. Many lay saints have been known to have corrected their priests.
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phil19034
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Im sorry, but if I had a priest doing all this, I would call the Bishop.
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