The End of the World (Probably Not Saturday) Question!

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Okay, with all the bizarre hype concerning the potential end-of-the-world cataclysm predicted by some nut job (whom the drive-by media is proudly describing as a ‘Christian Leader,’ or some such thing), I was reminded of some End-Times questions that I had considered quite some time ago.

First, in case anybody has forgotten, here are a few Scripture excerpts concerning the timing of the end:

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” Matthew 24:36

“Take heed, keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed time is” Mark 13:33

“The end of all things is at hand; therefore be self-controlled and sober-minded for the sake of your prayers. Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins. Show hospitality to one another without grumbling. As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God’s varied grace: whoever speaks, as one who speaks oracles of God; whoever serves, as one who serves by the strength that God supplies—in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ. To him belong glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.” 1 Peter 4:7-11

“But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.” 2 Timothy 3:1-5

There are definitely others. But of all the passages mentioned, the one that I want to focus on is Matthew 24:36. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

My hypothetical question is thus: If I, for the rest of my life, predict vocally that the world will end “sometime tomorrow” Does that preclude the end will not happen until at least the first day after my health has made me unable to speak?

I ask this question, because I have heard multiple instances of Christians (including Catholics) respond to the various end-time speculations by saying, “As long as somebody predicted it that day, Matthew 24:36 means it probably won’t happen at that time.” I even just left another thread on this website in which similar ideas were put forward.

If this were the case, why could I not train my descendants to continue making my daily prediction forever? Would this not mean that man had control over God? That doesn’t seem to make sense.

Thoughts?

~Pax
 
Well, are they going to pay atheists $20,000 to dog sit again?
 
Hi!

Have you noticed what you have cited?

No one knows, on earth!

…here’s what the Apostles learned (they too were a little confused about the Parousia):
3:9 The Lord is not being slow to carry out his promises, as anybody else might be called slow; but he is being patient with you all, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to change his ways. (2 St. Peter)
It is not man who can determine the end; God has already determined the End–what is the clue: when all of mankind has been given the opportunity to be Saved; how many are these?:
22:17a I will shower blessings on you, I will make your descendants as many as the stars of heaven and the grains of sand on the seashore. (Genesis)
…and we know that this speaks to all of Abraham’s descendants:
9:8 which means that it is not physical descent that decides who are the children of God; it is only the children of the promise who will count as the true descendants. (Romans)
1:12 But to all who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to all who believe in the name of him 1:13 who was born not out of human stock or urge of the flesh or will of man but of God himself. (St. John)
Maran atha!

Angel
 
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This thread is closing in 14 days. Proof positive that they are wrong. Be at peace, 😎
 
Where I be without the internet to let me know of impending cataclysms? Hope I get tea in first, it’s pesto chicken, one of my favourites.
 
I ask this question, because I have heard multiple instances of Christians (including Catholics) respond to the various end-time speculations by saying, “As long as somebody predicted it that day, Matthew 24:36 means it probably won’t happen at that time.” I even just left another thread on this website in which similar ideas were put forward.
Cute. Kind of like, trying to tie God’s hands behind His back and thwart His plan?

No… that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. “You don’t know the day” doesn’t imply “some nut case won’t attempt to predict the day”… 😉
 
My hypothetical question is thus: If I, for the rest of my life, predict vocally that the world will end “sometime tomorrow” Does that preclude the end will not happen until at least the first day after my health has made me unable to speak?
I say yes it does because no man knows the day or hour, so if someone says they do it turns that into moot… However, we are not left in the dark about the season of Christ return. We have several clues in Mathew 24 and the four horsemen as those seals are designed for our benefit so that we as Christians living in the time of their opening, can recognize the time of their passing. They are the opening events of the last days with bigger things coming.
 
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What he’s saying is since the verse say’s ‘no man knows the day or hour,’ any man who predicts a day or hour has to be wrong otherwise the verse is wrong.
 
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What he’s saying is since the verse say’s ‘no man knows the day or hour,’ any man who predicts a day or hour has to be wrong otherwise the verse is wrong.
RIght. In other words, by spuriously predicting the end, he prevents God from ending the world.

In other words, abject silliness.

So, my response is “even if you predict it, that doesn’t mean that you ‘know the day and hour’”. So… no. It doesn’t work that way.
 
If the world ends on Friday rather than Saturday, it won’t be because someone forgot to “predict” it. If it ends on Saturday, there will have been no “prediction” or “knowledge.” Statements to that effect are, and will be, only speculation. Guesswork. Just as a stopped clock will read the correct time twice a day, somebody’s guess could be correct by dumb luck, not because they had knowledge concerning the end times.
 
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its Saturday 23rd here.
early. morning
all is quiet
anticipation builds for the big footy match later today.
 
Considering what Jesus said about not knowing the time, I’d assume the world will definitely not end on a “predicted” day.
 
My question would then be, what if every day were a predicted day?
 
Hi, Rose!

…just a brainstorm!

Since you will go before I will (it is still Friday here), could you post a video of the rapturing?

Thanks!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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