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mozart-250
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So there was this thread a couple days ago about the CARM forums so for grins and giggles I decided to check it out. I even registered, but how much posting I actually do depends on how intelligent the place is (I despise stupidity).
So I observed that the “Roman Catholic” faith was in the Religious Category right there with Jehovah Witnesses and Islam. I thought that odd, I would have thunk that at a minimum they would put it in the heterodox bucket.
So I started reading and found a page called the essentials. An essential would be a belief you must hold in order to have eternal life. Now in reading these essentials, I would agree this would just about cover it what I would think is essential also (sometimes I wonder about the Trinity being an absolute essential since the concept was not well formed until the 300s or so but anyway)…but my rub is…I really thought the Catholics agreed also with these essentials (which gets me back to wondering why they are in the “religions” bucket).
Ignoring the board for a minute, is my perception true that Catholics agree with these essentials here?
Note: I do know this can lead into the “faith alone” issue. Maybe I am wrong, but in my analysis the issue seems to reduce to different definitions of the word faith, eternal security, and a misleading title. It is hard to impossible to have any meaningful dialogue without common definitions of the terms used. I wonder what the level of disagreement would be if I used the Wesleyan phrase “living faith alone” instead of “faith alone” .
So I observed that the “Roman Catholic” faith was in the Religious Category right there with Jehovah Witnesses and Islam. I thought that odd, I would have thunk that at a minimum they would put it in the heterodox bucket.
So I started reading and found a page called the essentials. An essential would be a belief you must hold in order to have eternal life. Now in reading these essentials, I would agree this would just about cover it what I would think is essential also (sometimes I wonder about the Trinity being an absolute essential since the concept was not well formed until the 300s or so but anyway)…but my rub is…I really thought the Catholics agreed also with these essentials (which gets me back to wondering why they are in the “religions” bucket).
Ignoring the board for a minute, is my perception true that Catholics agree with these essentials here?
Note: I do know this can lead into the “faith alone” issue. Maybe I am wrong, but in my analysis the issue seems to reduce to different definitions of the word faith, eternal security, and a misleading title. It is hard to impossible to have any meaningful dialogue without common definitions of the terms used. I wonder what the level of disagreement would be if I used the Wesleyan phrase “living faith alone” instead of “faith alone” .