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If a scrupulous person were to watch a video in Hi-def slow motion of just what happens at the breaking of the celebrant’s host, he would have to be institutionalized afterwards.
If a scrupulous person were to watch a video in Hi-def slow motion of just what happens at the breaking of the celebrant’s host, he would have to be institutionalized afterwards.
Thanks! I know that the Rite of Reception of Baptised Christians into full communion with the Catholic Church is included in the Roman Ritual as part of RCIA. But in the Introduction it tells us that those coming into full communion who have been validly baptised in a Christian church or ecclesial communion are not to be called “converts” and that they shouldn’t go through the catechumenate. I suppose we could say they’re coming home by a different road.The rite itself includes provision for receiving baptized Christians into the Church (see chapter five of the English translation).
I was so happy to read this post. You almost sound like a different person. You seem much happier and more relaxed. I hope you continue to find your faith journey stimulating and rewarding. I will continue to remember you in my prayers.First, thanks to everyone for your posts! I didn’t expect so many people to try to help with this
Answer to my religious history: I was raised Southern Baptist, but my church never mentioned anything about other religions, so I was completely clueless as to what they believed or even that there was that big of a difference. (It’s been mentioned many times that I was lucky to have been in that particular church because a lot of Baptist churches bash Catholics.) I was baptised at the age of 7 (my age of reason per Baptists), and attended Baptist churches until I met and married my Lutheran husband. I found the CC by doing research to try to understand how to talk to Catholics about the differences and similarities between Baptist-Lutheran-Catholic beliefs. Once I started reading about the CC I just couldn’t stop, and finally got in contact with the local Church’s religious education office. They explained that even though I was validly baptised I would still need to go through about 7 months of RCIA to learn the catechism. It just started this month (September) so it’s just the very beginning.
I actually started attending Mass and bought a copy of the Catechism and Compendium of the Catechism about 3 months ago, so most of what I know is what I’ve observed and what I learned from reading the Catechism. I only have one Catholic friend, and he was very instrumental in directing me and answering my questions, but he and his wife just had a baby, so it’s hard to reach them (unless you are a grandparent or the doctor)
I call myself Baptist-Catholic because I’m not going to pretend to understand everything Catholicism teaches. I still find myself looking to scripture for explainations of some of the beliefs, which is something the fundamentalist in me is probably always going to want to do (Luckily I’ve een able to read, learn and pray through papal infallibility and Marian doctrine, so I think my biggest hurtles have been overcome before RCIA).
Matthew, SimonDodd, Pregustator: Thank you for explaining things for me!! and for your prayers! (Pregustator, actually those examples added a sense of humor for me, good stuff)
Cat, Newbie, HCC : Helpful suggestions and stories, thank you(HCC, I read that prayer in a book that my Catholic friend gave me, and I forgot about it, so thank you for reminding me.)
Thanks, again, to everyone. I think now that it’s off my chest and I’ve got some good information to digest I won’t feel so edgy about the Eucharist!
For people raised protestant (of any flavor), I think infallibility is the biggest intellectual hurdle and Mary is the biggest emotional hurdle, so you’re doing great if you’ve overcome that initial resistance.I still find myself looking to scripture for explainations of some of the beliefs, which is something the fundamentalist in me is probably always going to want to do (Luckily I’ve been able to read, learn and pray through papal infallibility and Marian doctrine, so I think my biggest hurtles have been overcome before RCIA).
on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles * or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits. Then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray….
Having ended the prayers, we salute one another with a [sign of peace, which was then, and until the 1960s remained a] kiss. There is then brought to the president of the brethren bread and a cup of wine mixed with water; and he taking them, gives praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and offers thanks at considerable length for our being counted worthy to receive these things at His hands.
And this food is called among us Εὐχαριστία “Eucharist”], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Savior, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles … have handed on to us what was given to them: that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, “This do in remembrance of Me, this is My body;” and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, “This is My blood;” and gave it to them alone.
And when [the celebrant] has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all the people present express their assent by saying Amen. … [A]nd there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given….*(Rearranged slightly for clarity from First Apology.) That was Mass in A.D. 150. And what do you know: if someone walks into a Catholic Church any given Sunday, they’ll see that’s still the Mass today.
I won’t feel so edgy about the Eucharist!Oooooh… Well played.I think now that it’s off my chest and I’ve got some good information to digest
I will pray for you and your journey!![]()