in that case, what is your purpose here? Do you expect to pursuade all of us Catholics to abandon our delusional Apostolic beliefs?
Well, your posts demonstrate that you don’t. Either that or you are lying just to stir up controversy.
He sounds like an interesting person. I’ll have to do some reading on him some day.Well…You know, John Wesley was forever getting into trouble with rich & powerful people who tried to receive Holy Communion despite an openly sinful life, and he refused them, “lest they should receive to their own hurt, not recognizing the Body of Our Lord, and so receiving, be condemned”…
What is made clear in scripture is that Jesus is the Word of God incarnate. You are substituting the book for the Person!
At least you have progressed to the point where you realize your false beliefs about what the Church actually teaches make no sense at all. That is progress!
I am glad that you know the answer is to be found in Christ.
Well, this might come as a shock to you, but there is only ONE Church. Jesus did not come to found “churches”. He only has ONE Body. All who are members of that one Body are members of His Church. Jesus is the Head, and He does have all the answers.
Actually, it sounds like his faith stopped growing in elementary school. He has a very childlike perception of what the Church teaches. This is not unusual for altar boys. All he has is some children’s catechism, which apparently was not well done.Can’t you guys be convinced by the OP? I mean I can’t believe there’s someone who could not be convinced. His view of Catholicism is soooo accurate! He’s a 3rd year college student for pity’s sake! We all know 3rd year college students are so experienced in life, so good at interpreting Scripture (better than the ECF duuuh!), and sooo infallible nobody can refute them or can make them change their mind… They know everything! Sheeeesh!
This is a thinking error on your part. The sacrifice, made once for all time, is not done “again”. At the Mass, we participate in the one sacrifice that Jesus made to pay for our sins on the cross. We do this, as He commanded, in “rememberance” of HIm. It is a participation.
It does not make sense, that is true. It is a mystery. But, they are both true. How is it that the living presence of God burn in a bush, yet the bush not be consumed? Why did God tell the Israelites not to make any graven images, then instruct Moses to make some? How is it that a person who touched the ark of the covenant would drop dead, yet the Presence could fill Mary, without killing her? There are a lot of things that don’t make “sense”.
His sacrifice was eternal, but are participation has not been. He gave His life for our sins, but we were not even born yet! In order for us to PARTICIPATE in His eternal sacrifice, we need to approach Him in faith and obedience. This is how He instructed that it should be done. His work was finished, ours is not.
Here is some information about where we God the word Eucharist from.
The term Communion is derived from Latin** communio **(sharing in common). The corresponding term in Greek is κοινωνία, which is often translated as “fellowship”. In Christianity, the basic meaning of the term communion is an especially close relationship of Christians, as individuals or as a Church, with God and with other Christians. This basic meaning of the word, found in many passages of the New Testament (see the Biblical usage section below), predates its other, more specific, Christian uses.
I think this is true. How is the reader to tell which is which? Could this be the purpose of having a pillar and bulwark of the truth?
O.K. Now, I was an altar boy. What does that have to do with my catechesis as an adult? Many priests were altar boys. That’s what it’s all about…Sorry, I didn’t mean to cap on one comment but that was not a fair assessment. Proper catechesis comes from the home, period. I teach CCD (who would have guessed) and there is a VERY obvious difference between those kids whose parents are involved in their catechesis and those who are not. And it has no bearing whether or not they are altar servers, which now include girls…God Bless…teachccd
I think you have been very perfunctory and uncharitable with ajk19, monica1950. If he were not trying to “get over it” he would not be here! It is difficult to resolve a conflict between faith and reason by a simple act of the will. Evidently this has worked for you, but it does not work for everyone. He obviously was very poorly catechized in his childhood faith, and has had some struggles that have encouraged him to find a spiritual solution. I can’t say that I care much for his solution either (leaving the Church), but it is clear that he honestly does not understand the teachings.
You are right, it would be more appropriate to say that it is typical of any child. Children can only, by definition, have a childlike understanding of the doctrines of faith. I did not mean to say that altar boys are any more or less clear in their faith than other children. Perhaps, being closer to the actual practice of Mass, they may even have more questions/curiosities?O.K. Now, I was an altar boy. What does that have to do with my catechesis as an adult? Many priests were altar boys. That’s what it’s all about…Sorry, I didn’t mean to cap on one comment but that was not a fair assessment. Proper catechesis comes from the home, period. I teach CCD (who would have guessed) and there is a VERY obvious difference between those kids whose parents are involved in their catechesis and those who are not. And it has no bearing whether or not they are altar servers, which now include girls…God Bless…teachccd
Thank you for the clarification. I just didn’t want to anyone to think that altar servers have any different catechesis than any other kids. And like you brought up, being an altar server gives one an advantage to experience the Mass from a greater vantage point. I served for five years and those memories still remain with me thirty five years later…teachccd
Yes, it is. But what I mean is that everyone shouldn’t get so bent out of shape by his arguments. They are invalid, and that’s that.
So you’re saying that Christians are bound by kosher dietary laws? Even Protestants don’t believe that.