The F word

[Prophesy]

Prophesy – I’m sorry if I’m misspelling, btw – your username is the verb, you signed it as the noun . Probably just a slip, but it’s cute if you can go back and forth. Keeps people on their toes!

I think, though, that you did not mean the study of insects (entomology). Again just a slip. You meant the study of the derivations of words (etymology).

Unless you’re fooling with us again, making sure we’re reading.

Peace, E.

It’s actually a lot simpler than that. Signing up I made a typo, so I sign it the proper way. I’ve just been having difficulty contacting a mod to correct it. The other was a early morning typo as well.

-Prophecy

 

[Prophesy]

Abortion is a mass murderer’s game. Therefore it’s full of code words. Fetus is a code word for murder. If anybody calls my child fetus during my maternity care then I will sue. I’m your linguistic expert and I will try to get you made illegal.

I really don’t think you can sue over the term ‘fetus’, I also believe that if you did, you’d probably mar a lot of the pro-life cause. You can have two close looking words but you completely ignore the fact that fetus is a Latin word itself which means ‘offspring’.

-Prophecy

 

[Elizabeth502]

Abortion is a mass murderer’s game. Therefore it’s full of code words. Fetus is a code word for murder. If anybody calls my child fetus during my maternity care then I will sue. I’m your linguistic expert and I will try to get you made illegal.

Whether non-medical people appropriate technical terminology for public relations purposes is neither here nor there when it comes to lawsuits. There are no legal grounds for a suing a doctor over using accurate terms. As I said earlier, Ob-Gyns, in the normal course of things, do not “call” the growing life a “fetus” during routine exams during pregnancy. They usually refer to it as “your baby,” “the baby,” etc. The doctor might occasionally refer to “the fetal heartbeat,” early on, merely because that doctor is being technical in terms of biological development, but generally that’s not sustained language, and he or she is not doing it “to play a game.” When it came time to my amnios, he would say, “the baby is in this position,” “the baby is in that position,” “we’ll give you an ultrasound photo of your baby now,” or “here’s your baby on the screen,” “your baby looks fine.”

If you feel so strongly about the term, you could warn your own personal Ob-gyn that you are offended by it, and he or she will undoubtedly put that warning in red letters on your chart – in order to keep the patient happy — but you will get nowhere with a lawsuit. And as far as other personnel are concerned, by the time you would interface with any of them (such as for a possible healthy ultrasound, etc.) all personnel would already be referring to “the baby” without your prompting, so it will be a non-issue at that point. What’s on medical charts is not the same thing that’s in conversation.

I get your point; I think probably other posters do, too. Overall, yes, people in this modern culture abuse language for their moral/immoral agendas. Absolutely. (For another example, “marriage”) But a medical doctor in the context of your pregnancy appointments is not using “fetus” with any intent to commit murder. He or she is simply being medically accurate as to stage. Just warn your doctor that you have a problem with the term, and you’ll be fine.

 

[kmuestwin]

Q: What did the unborn twins say when they wanted more nutrients from their umbilical cords?
A: Fetus some more!

My twin brother told me that after we went through the anatomy part of our biology class in middle school. He’s always has a lame joke and that just fit with this thread.

Please don’t teach your kids to fear medical terms. What if your child ends up becoming an OBGYN? They can’t fear words. Teach them to respect life (you seem to have taught them this very well!) but not to feel like some words (excluding dirty words) are off limits. We were all fetuses (maybe feti?) at one time. It’s ok.

 

[Marc_Anthony]

Please don’t teach your kids to fear medical terms. What if your child ends up becoming an OBGYN? They can’t fear words.

Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.

-J.K. Rowling

 

[Catholic90]

Fetus is a code word for murder.

Technically, it is a medical term.

If anybody calls my child fetus during my maternity care then I will sue.

Sue for WHAT? Ridiculous! You would have NO CASE. Waste of time and money.

I’m your ***linguistic expert ***(really? I somehow doubt that based on your previous posts…) and I will try to get you made illegal (how do you plan to get a person made “illegal”? That makes NO SENSE.

What are you so afraid of? Why does LIFE scare you so much? Were you abused as a child or as a spouse, that you have so much fear? Do enjoy ANYTHING in life? Or is everything a big scary evil to you?

 

[St_Francis]

My post was in reference to her collective posts…she seems to be quite uneducated. That is why I was curious. Read what she has posted on spices, for example.

You appear to be socially inept. Does that mean I can ask you if you have any friends?

What are you so afraid of? Why does LIFE scare you so much? Were you abused as a child or as a spouse, that you have so much fear? Do enjoy ANYTHING in life? Or is everything a big scary evil to you?

What makes you so critical? Why are you so scared around people who are different from you? Did an uneducated person abuse you that you are so disturbed?

Do you see my point?

 

[Dale_M]

It’s actually a lot simpler than that. Signing up I made a typo, so I sign it the proper way. I’ve just been having difficulty contacting a mod to correct

It is actually quite difficult to make a revision of the name of an account, given the interconnected nature of messages and threads. Have you considered just abandoning your current account and creating a new one with the spelling you prefer?

As for objections to the word “fetus”, its reasonable to be offended if you are pregnant and someone is talking to you about your baby. But otherwise… I think you are on shaky ground to object to the use of the word. I could see it justified if challenging someone during an abortion discussion, but how often does that happen? Otherwise, it simply is a medical term.

 

[Catholic90]

You appear to be socially inept. Does that mean I can ask you if you have any friends?

What makes you so critical? Why are you so scared around people who are different from you? Did an uneducated person abuse you that you are so disturbed?

Do you see my point?

SHE writes about things that make no sense and YOU call ME socially inept…wow, are you the same poster as Budgie? Maybe you should move in together and teach the children how the word fetus is evil - thereby perpetuating more untruths. While you are at it, you can work with her on her own theology she is writing…she has never given an answer if that theology included God or not, so we do not really know what she is about.

I can be critical - I do not accept the garbage that she throws down as her “truths”, because they are blantantly false! I was just trying to figure out why she is hiding from the world, rather than enjoying life as God gave her. When she dies and stands before God, He might ask her, “Did you notice the wonderful smells and flavors I provided for you?” and her response will be, “NO! It was all evil!”

The only point I see from you is the one at the top of your head.

 

[St_Francis]

SHE writes about things that make no sense and YOU call ME socially inept…wow, are you the same poster as Budgie? Maybe you should move in together and teach the children how the word fetus is evil - thereby perpetuating more untruths. While you are at it, you can work with her on her own theology she is writing…she has never given an answer if that theology included God or not, so we do not really know what she is about.

I can be critical - I do not accept the garbage that she throws down as her “truths”, because they are blantantly false! I was just trying to figure out why she is hiding from the world, rather than enjoying life as God gave her. When she dies and stands before God, He might ask her, “Did you notice the wonderful smells and flavors I provided for you?” and her response will be, “NO! It was all evil!”

The only point I see from you is the one at the top of your head.

 

[Prophesy]

It is actually quite difficult to make a revision of the name of an account, given the interconnected nature of messages and threads. Have you considered just abandoning your current account and creating a new one with the spelling you prefer?
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Not sure really. A one letter change to a homonym may not be too bad. Especially when signing as the preferred. An extra account with a different name is also just space wasting. I know that its encouraged to like you mentioned, but I figured that would be more specifically referring to a more major name change.

-Prophecy

 

[budgie2]

Fetus is not just a medical term. It could be compared to the word N***** for the blacks. Babies are killed under the name Fetus. Again I would sue if you try to hack into my computer. As a language graduate, I believe the term fetus is used as it rhymes with the Latin fetes meaning “you stink”, origin of fetid. Fetus itself means “spawn” or “offspring”. Please don’t hack into my computer you murderers.

"Nothing is uglier than the sinner, nothing so leprous or fetid; the scar of his crimes is still raw, and he stinks like the cave of Hell. "

Aurelius Clemens Prudentius

 

[Elizabeth502]

Fetus is not just a medical term. It could be compared to the word N***** for the blacks.

I’m going to show this to my physician, the next time I see her.
I’m speechless.

Please don’t hack into my computer you murderers.

What are you talking about? Are you OK? I’m a little worried about you. Which one of us is a “murderer”?

"Nothing is uglier than the sinner, nothing so leprous or fetid; the scar of his crimes is still raw, and he stinks like the cave of Hell. "

Aurelius Clemens Prudentius

Yes, sin, and we sinners, stink.

My goodness.

 

[Dale_M]

I’m going to show this to my physician, the next time I see her.
I’m speechless.

Hi Elizabeth, I know you are responding to Budgie, but I wanted to join in on your disbelief.

The U.S. National Library of Medicine, which is part of the National Institutes of Health, has an online dictionary.
nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/mplusdictionary.html

A search for the word “fetus” turns up:

an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind ; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth—compare embryo

Or, a search of the US National Library of Medicine’s website for the word “fetus” turns up 745 results.
nlm.nih.gov/

For example, the first result:

Ultrasound, normal fetus - face

This is a normal ultrasound of the fetus performed at 17 weeks gestation. The fetal face can be seen in the middle of the screen. The head is tilted left toward the placenta, which can be seen as a mound in the left of the ultrasound image. Both eyes are visible, and the area of white within the eye is the lens. Other facial features, such as the nose and mouth, are also visible.

nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2255.htm

I’m pretty sure the word “fetus” is a medical term.

 

[kmuestwin]

Fetus is not just a medical term. It could be compared to the word N***** for the blacks. Babies are killed under the name Fetus. Again I would sue if you try to hack into my computer. As a language graduate, I believe the term fetus is used as it rhymes with the Latin fetes meaning “you stink”, origin of fetid. Fetus itself means “spawn” or “offspring”. Please don’t hack into my computer you murderers.

"Nothing is uglier than the sinner, nothing so leprous or fetid; the scar of his crimes is still raw, and he stinks like the cave of Hell. "

Aurelius Clemens Prudentius

Corki covered the origin of the word fetus in the fifth post on this thread.

Trying to link a medical term to a racial slur is more than silly. As a language expert, you would know that assigning a meaning to a word based on what it rhymes with is silly too. Otherwise, the word silly would also mean that you are cold. (chilly)

Has someone hacked your computer? If that has happened, I recommend messaging the forum admins about your security issue.

Calling anyone on this particular thread murderers is pretty rude. I don’t think anyone on this thread advocating abortion. Most people just disagree with your own definition of the word fetus.

P.S. Happy Assumption Day!

 

[St_Francis]

I have to admit that the pro-abortion crowd uses the word fetus in a propagandistic way: It’s *just *a fetus, it’s not yet a “baby,” and the like. Maybe this is a point which should be explored?

 

[KostyaJMJ]

My post was in reference to her collective posts…she seems to be quite uneducated. That is why I was curious. Read what she has posted on spices, for example.

You do realize this is someone out there who is just yanking our chain. She is just posting crazy and outrageous to get attention and have a little chuckle.

 

[Elizabeth502]

Post 33: I believe that it has been explored, on a different thread.

Much of even good communication, and public relations, is about the placement, the choice, of words --and often images-- to achieve a particular effect. That 's what political campaigns are also about – the appropriation of words to associate good words with one candidate, “bad” words with the opposing candidate. Welcome to the modern world.

It doesn’t mean that when words are used inaccurately, or when phrases are created to invent an artificial equation (gay “marriage”), that the country has to buy it. (Should we abandon the word “marriage” because a group wants to seize it illegitimately and publish their private dictionary, forcing the public to adopt that dictoinary as the new standard?)

Not in my opinion. We should reclaim the accuracy of the term, that’s all. The term ‘fetus’ does not negate life. It defines a stage of development in a continuum. When a physician uses it, that’s what the physician means, and nothing evil or untoward.

 

[St_Francis]

Post 33: I believe that it has been explored, on a different thread.

Much of even good communication, and public relations, is about the placement, the choice, of words --and often images-- to achieve a particular effect. That 's what political campaigns are also about – the appropriation of words to associate good words with one candidate, “bad” words with the opposing candidate. Welcome to the modern world.

It doesn’t mean that when words are used inaccurately, or when phrases are created to invent an artificial equation (gay “marriage”), that the country has to buy it. (Should we abandon the word “marriage” because a group wants to seize it illegitimately and publish their private dictionary, forcing the public to adopt that dictoinary as the new standard?)

Not in my opinion. We should reclaim the accuracy of the term, that’s all. The term ‘fetus’ does not negate life. It defines a stage of development in a continuum. When a physician uses it, that’s what the physician means, and nothing evil or untoward.

Yes, and I totally agree that she should not sue her doctor or anything like that. However, reinforcing the issue with one’s children might not be a bad idea. So that when they hear the word fetus, they think: baby, not little clump of cells somewhat like an appendix…

 

[Phemie]

Abortion is a mass murderer’s game. Therefore it’s full of code words. Fetus is a code word for murder. If anybody calls my child fetus during my maternity care then I will sue. I’m your linguistic expert and I will try to get you made illegal.

I’d hate to see what you’d do if you came in bleeding while pregnant and the doctor said he was admitting you due to a threatened abortion – or that he was going to do a D&C due to an incomplete abortion.

Medical terms are no more than that, medical terms. They have no negative connotation except that which you place on them.