The Face of Jesus Revealed: History Channel

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I was watching a news segment on news about the Face of Jesus Revealed and shows Jesus what he looks like based on the shroud of Turin.

Some of the side comments in the news by a woman called, “Jesus is hot.” The ABC then ended the news by a woman who said, “It does not matter what Jesus look like, it is what he did that counts.”

I agree with the last statement.
 
I saw the whole 2 hour episode on the History channel last night.

It was very interesting indeed.

But did not see or read any of the news about it.
 
I taped it and just saw it. That was very interesting indeed!

I don’t even know if the shroud is authentic, but I have to admit they have some pretty good evidence that it may be. They took the cloth that covered the face and it matches the shroud. Do I need it to have faith in Jesus? No. The reality is that the human face of Jesus is not really that important in the scheme of things.
 
I did not see the program (don’t watch TV), but I have read quite a bit about the Shroud and I have a print on my home altar that used NASA technology and the Shroud to produce what Jesus’ face may have looked like. I find it very comforting to look at.

BTW, my dad is a retired NASA engineer, and his family is from Torino, Italy, where the Shroud is located - kind of neat! 👍
 
I was watching a news segment on news about the Face of Jesus Revealed and shows Jesus what he looks like based on the shroud of Turin.

Some of the side comments in the news by a woman called, “Jesus is hot.” The ABC then ended the news by a woman who said, “It does not matter what Jesus look like, it is what he did that counts.”

I agree with the last statement.
The first comment is completely inappropriate, it makes me sad that someone would think in those terms. The second has a certain value, but I think it misses a certain human element. Personally if I could see the actual face of Jesus and know it was his, then that would have significant value to me. It would be of great value to my meditations when I do, the rosary for instance, which tend to be graphic in my mind.

As far as I’m concerned, the shroud image is at least as good as any, if not superior for these purposes. I wouldn’t mind downloading some of the artists renditions and studying them some.
 
t would be nice if the Pope returned the shroud, as a gesture of good will 🙂
 
I saw this when it aired and as I was watching it, it was so good that I actually forgot I was watching History Channel. Then they mentioned the Gnostics and the Gospel of Thomas and then I remembered. :rolleyes: It’s silly to think there was some secret “code” or secret knowledge left in the shroud for us to find out. If so, it would render Jn 15:15 meaningless:

“I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
 
You’re giving me credit where it is not due, my brother. I’m seriously asking you, to whom do you want it returned? I’m not expert on the Shroud? What did you mean by that? I’m not pretty quick, it was a genuine question…🙂
Ah, I knew that was coming.

You are pretty quick my friend 😉
 
You’re giving me credit where it is not due, my brother. I’m seriously asking you, to whom do you want it returned? I’m not expert on the Shroud? What did you mean by that? I’m not pretty quick, it was a genuine question…🙂
I had composed a very nice post on this subject, but I accidentally lost it :(. I lack the time to go into this in depth at present.

If the shroud is genuine (and I believe that it is) it had to have been in the east originally. It may be the famous Holy Mandylion, a representation of which can be found in most Orthodox temples even today.

Of course, the origins of the Mandylion are also cloudy and legendary, but it did not originate in France by any accounts. Even in legend it’s origins trace from Palestine to Edessa and through the Sassanid capture of Edessa to it’s relinquishing and deposit in Constantinople.



The Knights of the Temple supposedly possessed this article from 1204AD until their suppression and dissolution by king Philipe of France and Pope Clement (1307AD).

Interestingly, one of the heresy charges against the knights was that they ‘worshiped a human head’. In fact it was charged that initiates into the order were ritually accepted through a profession in front of an image of a human head. Pretty scary stuff.

http://www.greatbigcanvas.com/image...computer-enhanced-image-face-Shroud-Turin.jpg

The theory is that the De Charney family inherited the relic from their prominent family member Geoffrey de Charny. He was a preceptor of the Knights of the Temple who died in flames along with de Molay in 1314AD. He would have had sufficient authority within the order to have removed it from the vaults during the crises, and hidden it away.

It was a nephew of Geoffrey de Charny who first announced to the western Christian world the existence of the shroud, in 1357AD. An heir of the family willed, granted or sold the relic to the House of Savoy.

The following article spells out the testimony of two witnesses to the burial shroud of Christ being in Constantinople before the sack.
1171 - Almaric, the last Christian King of Jerusalem visited Emperor Manuel I Commenus of Constantinople, his father-in-law. William, Archbishop of Tyre, in his Historia rerum in partibus transmarinis gestarum wrote “…] nothing was hidden. Nothing sacred which had been placed in the hidden places of the sacred rooms from the time of the blessed Emperors Constantine, Theodosius and Justinian but was familiarly revealed to the king and his companions. …]”. The relics included the “…] most precious evidence of the Passion of Our Lord, namely the cross, nails, lance, sponge, reed, crown of thorns, sindon (that is the cloth in which He was wrapped) and the sandals …]”.
1203 - Robert de Clari in his La Conquête de Constantinople wrote “…] There was another church which was called My Lady Saint Mary of Blachernae, where there was the sydoines in which our Lord had been wrapped, which every Friday, raised itself upright, so that one could see the features of our Lord on it, and no one, either Greek or French, ever knew what became of this sydoines when the city was taken …]”.
1205 - Theodore Ducas Angelos in a letter to Pope Innocent III wrote “…] In April last year a crusading army, having falsely set out to liberate the Holy Land, instead laid waste the city of Constantine. During the sack troops of Venice and France looted even the holy sanctuaries. The Venetians partitioned the treasures of gold, silver and ivory, while the French did the same with the relics of the saints and, most sacred of all the linen in which our Lord Jesus Christ was wrapped after his death and before the resurrection. We know that the sacred objects are preserved by their predators in Venice, in France and in other places, the sacred linen in Athens. So many spoils and sacred objects should not be taken contrary to all human and divine laws, nevertheless in your name in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, albeit against your will, the barbarians of our age have done just that …]”.
 
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