The Fate of All Non-Christians

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ReformedCatholic:
If Christ died for our sins, then what is there to be “saved” from? I can see this as puzzling our non-Christian friends.
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He died for the remission of sins. More to the point, he died so that mankind can shed origional sin through baptism and personal sin through confession and penance. One might say that he is saving us from ourselves.
 
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richbansha:
He died for the remission of sins. More to the point, he died so that mankind can shed origional sin through baptism and personal sin through confession and penance. One might say that he is saving us from ourselves.
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But some would ask why would he have to die to provide us with baptism, confession, and penance? Couldn’t he have just given us that anyway?

I’m not a big believer in the “original sin” concept anyway, but I understand the logic behind it being included in the whole thing.
 
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ReformedCatholic:
But some would ask why would he have to die to provide us with baptism, confession, and penance? Couldn’t he have just given us that anyway?

I’m not a big believer in the “original sin” concept anyway, but I understand the logic behind it being included in the whole thing.
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I suppose he could have given them anyway but he didn’t. I am still stumped by the ultimate question. Namely, if God is perfect within himself, then how did he come to the caprice of creating anything at all?

As to the origional sin bit, you are one up on me. I do not understand the logic behind it. Still, that is what I was tought. So, in the absence of a better hypothesis, I go along.
 
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richbansha:
I suppose he could have given them anyway but he didn’t. I am still stumped by the ultimate question. Namely, if God is perfect within himself, then how did he come to the caprice of creating anything at all?

As to the origional sin bit, you are one up on me. I do not understand the logic behind it. Still, that is what I was tought. So, in the absence of a better hypothesis, I go along.
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Well, actually I don’t REALLY understand the logic of it- not in terms of a Christian belief system. Ironically, the only way the original sin bit makes any sense to me is if you consider the Eastern philosophies of karma and reincarnation. Original sin refering to the karmic debt owed by one from previous incarnations. Otherwise, beats me! Why would I inherit the “sin” of somebody else who lived thousands (or millions) of years ago?? Sounds like a raw deal!
 
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