The fifth joyful mystery

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I always find it difficult to meditate on the fifth joyful mystery. I can never understand why. I too, like the Blessed Mother, try to ponder it in my heart but still I do not understand. Do you have any insights to share that can help me to understand better?

Antoinette.
 
One summer when I was alone because DH was gone on business, I prayed this mystery, Finding the Child Jesus who was Lost in the Temple for 3 days, for the entire summer. DD#3 was well and truly lost in her manner of living, and actually, since much of the time we did not know where she was or who she was with. But when your kids are grown (or think they are) you have to let them go and figure it out themselves, and trust to their upbringing, and entrust them to God’s care.

Thank God she did find her way, and now is married to a wonderful Catholic man, and though she was told that medically it was unlikely she would ever conceive, has a 3 yr old, and his baby sister is on the way. She is happy in her family and her work, and is a joy to us.
 
I always find it difficult to meditate on the fifth joyful mystery. I can never understand why. I too, like the Blessed Mother, try to ponder it in my heart but still I do not understand. Do you have any insights to share that can help me to understand better?

Antoinette.
You’re not supposed to understand the Fifth Joyful Mystery – or any of the other Mysterys. That’s why they’re called Mysterys.

You are supposed to meditate on them, realizing you can never fully understand them. Let’s take a different Mystery as an example, the Agony in the Garden. You might meditate like this:

Jesus, being God knows what’s going to happen to him. His knowledge is perfect, so as He prays, He can actually feel the scourge. He can** feel** the nails being driven into His wrists and feet. Being man also, He must be terrified – He must truly be in agony.

This doesn’t lead to a solution to the mystery, but rather to a closeness to God.
 
I always find it difficult to meditate on the fifth joyful mystery. I can never understand why. I too, like the Blessed Mother, try to ponder it in my heart but still I do not understand. Do you have any insights to share that can help me to understand better?

Antoinette.
what would you feel when you can’t find Jesus in your life? How would you search for Him? How would you do to find joy and enthusiasm in finding Jesus? Where could you find Jesus? - in a homeless man, in a friend, a family member.

What would you think knowing that there are many people out there losing their faith to God? They no longer believe in Jesus; they lost Jesus themselves.

What would you do to help others find Jesus in their lives?

Those are one of few things you can pray for and think of for this mystery.
 
Perhaps I am taking a little different approach to trying to understanding this mystery but I hope this helps.

Maybe what we could comtemplate during our praying this decade is not only our searching for Christ but what does it really mean when we actually find Him?

Think about how the joy Our Blessed Mother and St. Joseph must have felt when they finally for their son only to be tempered by Jesus’ rebuke when he asked why they were so concern and t didn’t realize he must have been, " About my Fathers work?"
Here Luke goes on to tell us that she kept these things in her heart. But what were these things? Maybe it was all the events in her (their) life which pointed to the realization that to be a true “Mother” to her son meant a dying to self. Did not Simeon tell her, " And you yourself a sword will pierce"? Wasn’t this how she lived the rest of her life during Jesus’ public ministry, that is, a constant dying to self from the constant reminders to her by Jesus of the true meaning of discipleship?

Think about Jesus’ first response to her at the wedding feast of Cana when she presented the problem with the wine? Or Jesus’ reaction when he was told that his mother and brothers and sisters were present to see him?
I am sure in her heart she must have understood the true meaning of Christ’s words, but she was human and I cannot imagine they still didn’t hurt (dying to self, allowing God to be magnified through our being, does hurt at times, no?).

And think about how her son’s word’s about his Father’s work had to echo in her mind and heart as she watched him be rejected, tortured and crucified.

So I think as you contemplate this mystery, think about how Our Blessed Mother took those simple words of her son and kept them in her heart and not really knowing all that would take place to fulfill these words and what this means for you and I and our life in response to Christ’s calling to be his disciple.
 
Contemplation of the plaintext level meaning of the gospel story underlying the Fifth Joyful Mystery…

Note well that the story finds Jesus discussing matters of faith in the temple with the rabbis (Luke 2:46-47) at the age of 12 (Luke 2:42). Even if this is not Jesus’ bar mitvah and perhaps an informal institution of the Sacrament of Confirmation – the “successor” to bar mitzvah – the story fills that role, well.

Contemplation of the sensus plenior level meaning of the gospel story underlying the Fifth Joyful Mystery…

Note well that in the story Jesus disappears in Jerusalem during Passover time for 3 days, and is seen again “presiding” in the temple, teaching the teachers. Does that remind you of anything?
 
Just a few more meditation ideas:

A foretaste of the three days she would be without Jesus when He was in the tomb. Was it a preparation for those three days? a prefiguration for Mary that after three days in the tomb she would see Jesus again?

The fifth mystery speaks to us also:

*“Son, why have You treated us so?” *Compare to “dry” periods in our life, when God seems to be absent. Do we talk over our anxiety with Jesus (eg. asking why; what we are to learn from the dry period)?

*“Did you not know that I must be in My Father’s house?” *Where can we find Him? In His house - the tabernacle in Church.

*“And He went with them and came to Nazareth …” *How fervently do we search for Jesus; desire Him to come and be a constant member in our home?

Nita
 
This is something I worked up from Ed Sri’s “The Rosary in Scripture”.
Imagine what Mary and Joseph are experiencing. When making a pilgrimage to Jerusalem for a feast like Passover, it was common for Jews to travel in large caravans made up of extended family members and friends. Assuming Jesus was with one of their kinsfolk, Mary and Joseph go a whole day’s journey without realizing that their child is missing. But at the end of the day they cannot find Him. They search for Him frantically throughout the caravan. They ask their friends and relatives. No one has even seen Him.
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          Now they return to Jerusalem.  After looking throughout the city, they enter the temple on the third day and find Jesus talking with the Jewish Rabbis, stunning them with his knowledge.  Astonished, Mary approaches Jesus and says to Him, "***Son why have you treated us so?  Behold, your father and I have been looking for you anxiously***" (Lk. 2:48).  Jesus responds, "***How is it that you sought me?  Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house***?"  This expression could be translated "*my Father's affairs*" or "*my Father's business*" (Lk. 2:49).  At a young age, Jesus already is emphasizing that He must be busy doing the will of His heavenly Father, even if it means suffering for those He loves, Mary and Joseph, however, are bewildered by their son's statement: "***They did not understand the saying which he spoke to them***" (Lk. 2:50).
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          They lost Jesus.  They could not find Him for three days.  They did not understand.  This scene from the childhood of Jesus prefigures what will take place at the climax of His ministry as an adult.  In the last days of His life Jesus will make another pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the feast of Passover.
There, in the holy city, he will enter the temple and engage the Jewish teachers in the sanctuary. He will amaze many with his wisdom, just as he did in his youth. On this occasion, however, the astonishment will lead to His demise as the Jerusalem leaders plot His death. Once again, Jesus will be taken away from His mother, this time to be crucified on Calvary. And standing below the Cross, Mary, as would any mother, will feel the pains of not fully understanding how her Son could suffer such a tragic death. Yet at the same time Mary, through her faith, will trust that Jesus must be about His “Father’s house,” fulfilling the will of the Father. And just as Mary found Jesus on the third day in Jerusalem as a child, she will find him again on the third day when he rises from the dead on Easter Morning.
 
How about this: the Mysterious Threes:

There are those mysterious threes all over the Gospels: Jesus falls three times, and in the third, he cannot raise himself again. Three times St. Peter denies him, and three times he is reconciled (“Peter, do you love me?”) Jesus speaks to Mary Magdelene three times at the Tomb, and only in third does she recognize him. Joseph and Mary look for Jesus for three days and three nights before they find him. Jesus prays three times to let the cup pass in the Garden of Geths., but in the third he is able to accept.

I find this interesting because the Catholic spirituality way of the saint has three stages: the purgative, the illuminative and the unitive. Only in the unitive does the saint finally be able to fully accept whatever God’s Will is. Also interesting that in the anlaysis of Jewish history and proposed Catholic history, the Jews and the Church go through “3 days”, each with their proper parallels. In the first day, they go through the persecution of the “purgative” senses (Egypt, pagan Rome), but they are both delivered into a kingdom (Israel, Catholicism). and while in the kingdoms, there is indeed great “illumination” (the prophets, the doctrinal development of the Catholic Church). And in each case, the illumination is gradually resisted, culminating in a sort of darkn night of the soul, in which the respective Jew and Gentile are utterly oblivious to the word of God. But there is a chastisement in both cases (Babylon, our potential Minor Chas), leading to the vindication of the illumination and the restoration / “unitive” phase (Jewish return to Holy Land / the Reunion of Christians and great restoration of Catholic faith in world), which is followed by the ultimate sacrifice, martyrdom, under the associated Antichrists (in OT, Antiochus, in NT, the end of world AC), followed by the crossing of the threshold (with the saint, heaven, with the Jews, the first Coming of Christ, with the Church, the Second Coming of Christ).

So, I’m thinking, this may be precisely how the Jews come to recognize Christ in the “third day”. The RCC will say, don’t you see that this is deja vu for you? Everything YOU went through, we went through! (“Amen, Amen, I say to you, it will all be fulfilled…”). Mabye just a coincidence, but it is interesting. After three days and three nights (three ages of the Redemption of the Gentiles), Mary and Joseph (the Jews) finally find Jesus in the Temple, and they ask him, “Son! Why have you done this to us. We have been searching for you in sorrow these three days?” And Jesus will say (to the Jews), “Well, duuuh?! What were you thinking? Did you not know that I must be about my Father’s business? [Redeeming the Gentiles in three ages just as I redeemed you in your three ages]?”

Hence, with Mary Magdelene,

Jesus asks a first time, “Woman, why are you crying?”
“They have taken my Lord and I do not know where they have laid him.” Again, in the days of the Early Church, amidst dispersion, the Jews are lost. They say to themselves, “The Messiah was supposed to come. But he didn’t. I do not know where he is.”

Jesus asks a second time, “Woman, why are you crying?”
This time, she still doesn’t recognize Jesus, but she suspects that this man may be able to help her, “Sir, if YOU know where they have taken him, then please tell me in order that I may go and annoint him.” So then, even now, as the catastrophes mount, the Jews still do not recognize their Messiah, but they at least many times hold the holier of Christians in esteem, and, as Birch points out, even though it will not be the “fullness of the Jews” of the very end, nevertheless, he indicated many mystics forsee some Jews converting in the aftermath of the minor tribulation.

But, finally, a third time, Jesus speaks, “Mary!” And her eyes are opened! Hence, in the final trial, when the Gentiles are radically and irrevocably departing from the Gospel in the times of Antichrist, the Church shall say, “Don’t you get it? This is the parallell of the third and final age that YOU went through.” So then, the Jews can see it! Yes, everything we went through, the Gentiles did! That’s it. Our Messiah has indeed been “about his Father’s Business” for three ages, and only now in the last one do we find him!

Just some things I’ve been thinking about.
 
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