The FSSP and not taking religious vows

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I was reading on the FSSP website that they do not take religious vows…what exactly does that mean? By not taking vows, can they validly administer Communion, Marriage, or other sacraments? This may sound like a dumb question, but I thought they were Ordained Priest that took full religious vows…can anyone tell me what they can and can’t do? Thanks.
 
I believe that they mean that they are not a religious congregation.
As the Church has always used the term:
  1. Religious belong to a RELIGIOUS Order, such as Franciscans, Dominicans, etc.
  2. Secular priests belong to no such orders. They are what you would refer to as the regular PARISH priest.
Both priests have identical receipt of the sacrament of Holy Orders.
By being called Fraternity or Society, the FSSP can easily be confused with a RELIGIOUS order, not secular
 
Thanks!!! Oh ok…sorry…I was just kind of confused by the way it was worded on their website…I thought I had to be misunderstanding, because I didn’t see the need for such a long seminary if you were going to be ordained in the end and be able to administer the sacraments…silly me.
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I believe that they mean that they are not a religious congregation.
As the Church has always used the term:
  1. Religious belong to a RELIGIOUS Order, such as Franciscans, Dominicans, etc.
  2. Secular priests belong to no such orders. They are what you would refer to as the regular PARISH priest.
Both priests have identical receipt of the sacrament of Holy Orders.
By being called Fraternity or Society, the FSSP can easily be confused with a RELIGIOUS order, not secular
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Where does it say they don’t take vows. My Parish has one priest who is ordained and visits us when he comes home to visit his family.(They won’t alow FSSP to have a Parish here we are stuck with a very crabby administrator who I swear cripples all the priest’s who we like, they all end up with inguries and 3 are old, he hasn’t managed to get the young priest.) When he comes home he always says Mass. We also have several seminarians one who will be ordained this spring.
Can you give the link.
Kathy
 
The Rector of Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary, Fr James Jackson, was just recently at the Ave Maria School of Law. He gave a short (1hr) talk on the beauty of the TLM, and celebrated the TLM for a small group. He came across as truly humble, truly a priest of God, and truly a sign of great things to come. Yea for the Fraternity of St Peter.
 
Hey, I think TNT cleared it up…but here is the link…it was kind of confusing at first.
fssp.org/en/presentation.htm

http://www.fssp.org/objet/puce.gifOrigin of the Fraternity

http://www.fssp.org/objet/T.gifhttp://www.fssp.org/objet/Audience.jpghe Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter is a Clerical Society of Apostolic Life of Pontifical right, that is, a community of Roman Catholic priests who do not take religious vows, but who work together for a common mission in the world.
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Where does it say they don’t take vows. My Parish has one priest who is ordained and visits us when he comes home to visit his family.(They won’t alow FSSP to have a Parish here we are stuck with a very crabby administrator who I swear cripples all the priest’s who we like, they all end up with inguries and 3 are old, he hasn’t managed to get the young priest.) When he comes home he always says Mass. We also have several seminarians one who will be ordained this spring.
Can you give the link.
Kathy
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Pandora:
Where does it say they don’t take vows. Kathy
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This may clear things a little more:
Historically, all Nuns take Vows, and in so doing join a RELIGIOUS Congregation authorized as such by the pope.
All Nuns, historically belong to a RELIGIOUS Congregation by virtue of taking VOWS.

All Marriages require VOWS ( sadly, the couple usually think that they are just making kindly CONTRACTS).

Yet neither receives Holy Orders.
 
I am pretty sure I hear what you are saying…the Priest do take Holy Orders…as do all Priest regardless if they are a Parish Priest or a Franciscan…but the FSSP do not take vows because they are not a part of a specific order such as the Fransciscans…right?
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TNT:
This may clear things a little more:
Historically, all Nuns take Vows, and in so doing join a RELIGIOUS Congregation authorized as such by the pope.
All Nuns, historically belong to a RELIGIOUS Congregation.

All Marriages require VOWS ( sadly, the couple think that they are just making kindly CONTRACTS).

Yet neither receives Holy Orders.
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dumspirospero:
I am pretty sure I hear what you are saying…the Priest do take Holy Orders…as do all Priest regardless if they are a Parish Priest or a Franciscan…but the FSSP do not take vows because they are not a part of a specific order such as the Fransciscans…right?
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Sometimes people think that all priests take vows. The reality is that diocesan priests make promises while religious order priests take vows. There is very little difference (although, in general, those in religious orders add a vow of poverty which is not part of the secular or diocesan clergy promises). BTW, deacons make the same promises/take the same vows and their priestly counterparts – although for a married deacon the promise/vow of celibacy is deferred until such time as his wife predeceases him.

Deacon Ed
 
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Deacon Ed:
Sometimes people think that all priests take vows. The reality is that diocesan priests make promises while religious order priests take vows. There is very little difference (although, in general, those in religious orders add a vow of poverty which is not part of the secular or diocesan clergy promises). BTW, deacons make the same promises/take the same vows and their priestly counterparts – although for a married deacon the promise/vow of celibacy is deferred until such time as his wife predeceases him.

Deacon Ed
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The Rector of Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary, Fr James Jackson, was just recently at the Ave Maria School of Law. He gave a short (1hr) talk on the beauty of the TLM, and celebrated the TLM for a small group. He came across as truly humble, truly a priest of God, and truly a sign of great things to come. Yea for the Fraternity of St Peter.
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Yep, I know him. He is definately of that character.
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