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I find it equally amassing that you can not read for yourself. You accept the Magistrate on on interpretation of key verses that can not allow you any other conclusion. All that, in the fact that we can indicate scripture that fall out of your dogma. Then you quote the Magistrate to validate it. All while you point to grace instead of the gift of grace, the Holy Spirit. In your terminology on this tread it appears that grace is your stand in for the gift of grace the Holy Spirit. Jesus ether gave himself for works and the law or He didnt. You would rather institute a new set of laws to replace the laws that did not bring life in the OT. You do understand that none of the patriarchs got to heaven aside of Jesus dont you. Jesus takes them to the Father also in grace. Their laws and services did not save them. It was but a shadow of what was to come. It truly amasses me that you people dont understand the Gospel. Your salvation comes from the Eucharist and baptism. ceremonies no different than the OT ceremonies that the Hebrews preformed, sad indeed. You are in every case the continuance of the old law. You have merely replace the Jewish law with your NT law and ceremonies. Thats not what Jeremiah says, I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God. That dont sound like the LORD will bring a new set of laws. The NT laws you follow. Your similarity to the OT Jews, even excluding all others and makes your church the only path to salvation. Was that part of Gods plan? I know you will quote mat 16:18 but is their an OT verse that supports your thought about the catholic churches only way to salvation. Jeremiah says that new will not be like the old. I see your church as being the very same as the old.I agree. Well said. I find it stunning, literally stunning, and not to be somehow mean or elitist; but I am stunned by Protestants who can roll out quote after quote from scripture, decide when Jesus is speaking metaphorically, and then tell us that Catholicism contradicts scripture. In the meantime they ignore the quite clear meaning of Christ’s own words on the Eucharist, on the power to forgive sins, on the primacy of Peter and on the need to hear the Church. It’s actually mindboggling. The fog must be thick indeed.
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,[a] says the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
Its rather hard to put “the primacy of Peter and on the need to hear the Church” in to the above verse, says the LORD.No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD