The Gospel of Jesus Wife discovered...

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Still missing the point… Jesus was The Word of God. If you believe in God then the true Gospels were directly inspired by the Almighty.

They weren’t just random reflections. It wasn’t scribbling things on an ipad. Materials were precious. Recording anything, time-consuming and laborious. Even a moment’s thought must reveal that.

With the all too casual acceptance of ‘what’s the big deal,’ It’s looking like I returned to the forum too soon.
 
According to huffingtonpost, there is a new document that was discovered suggesting that Jesus was married.

Gospel of Jesus wife discovered

I’m not sure where Christians stand on Jesus being married or single, but judging by the article, it sounds to alarmistic too me. Even if Christ was married, that still doesn’t hinder his teachings nor resurrection.

Thoughts?
It’s from the 4th century. Enough said.
 
Every few years you get some supposedly new revelation about Jesus. I’ll stick with the last revelation and the 1st church.
 
To people who say what difference does it make: It makes a pretty big difference because it raises serious questions. If Jesus was married, and Jesus was God, then that means God can fall in love with a human woman, and love her above all the others. Not love in the way Jesus loved everybody, but love in the way you love your spouse. It would be an extremely unequal marriage; omniscient, omnipotent God, and a normal human woman. Not only that, but that also opens the possibility of God reproducing with a human woman, and what kinds of offspring that would produce. The idea that Jesus got married seems quite incompatible with the doctrine that Jesus is God.
Let me say that I have no reason to believe that Jesus ever married. But, if we believe that nothing is impossible for God, his Son’s marriage is not out of the question. God can do whatever he wishes to do and is not limited by what our human minds can accept. I recall a young Jewish woman who conceived by the Holy Spirit – something that no one of that time was likely to have thought possible.
 
After reading the NYT article I observe the following :

We have a business card sized manuscript fragment, whose date and location of discovery is unknown, authorship and purpose also unknown, discovered in the posession of an unknown collector who obtained it in a stack of stuff from a German collector. The manuscript has been dated to 4th century and is in the coptic language.

Boy in light of this we are gonna have to rethink everything ?! Ha… This is just silly…

Also notice that there is a really dark bunch of ink on the two lines where the two scandalous comments are made. Looks to me like someones been monkeying around with the fragment to me but what do I know.
 
According to huffingtonpost, there is a new document that was discovered suggesting that Jesus was married.

Gospel of Jesus wife discovered

I’m not sure where Christians stand on Jesus being married or single, but judging by the article, it sounds to alarmistic too me. Even if Christ was married, that still doesn’t hinder his teachings nor resurrection.

Thoughts?
No matter how much evidence is ever provided that Jesus was married, Christians would never accept it.
 
No matter how much evidence is ever provided that Jesus was married, Christians would never accept it.
But wouldn’t you agree hunter that this is not really evidence? If it is a Gnostic text dating from the 4th century, it really isn’t earth shattering. It is generally accepted that gnosticism as a philosophy had its origins two centuries after the birth of Jesus. This at face value is not convincing of anything. Also, do you know if it is peer reviewed?

Or are you just jumping on this because Christianity is not your cup of tea:shrug:
 
The point - intent of the global news story - is to undermine the Pope and the Holy See as well as orthodox Protestants. I only leave out the Eastern Orthodox because secular Western opponents of Christianity ignore the catholicity and orthodoxy in the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches.

Constantine and the Pope created all it would seem - until Luther and Calvin and the other Reformers.

Of importance in every single one of these journalistic articles or TV shows is connect a sexually active Jesus with evidence that in so-called over-populated world that a faithful Jesuit is committing grave sin by not helping overpopulate the world. Or at least by not having sex and using birth control.

Of course, the idea is a contradiction if in fact the world is overpopulated, and celibate priests, nuns, and monks should be praised for their selfless act of helping protect Mother Nature and reduce the chances of famine, disease, war, and global warming due to over population.

(I do think it is correct to infer from the statistical data that the exponential population growth across the world has partly caused global warming - although, I disagree with the idea that earth has reached it’s carrying capacity)

Basically, it is a method of propaganda to increase doubt and demoralize Christians. Precisely why such global news focuses on revisionist history of Jesus and Christianity and not Islam, Buddhism, or Hinduism.

If I wrote articles discussing and drawing claims about Judaism or Islam using the diction and tone standard in these articles, and have my editors made them national or global news every time, I would be accused of not just bias but of a malicious hatred.

And male and female feminists are really irked by the fact their are grown men that vow celibacy rather than place themselves under an intimate and authoritarian influence from women (via: girlfriend or wife). Interesting, they have not of the wrath for active gay males, which in terms of logic, discriminate against women. The word discrimination is not one and the same as sexism or racism. If a man prefers short, dark women to tall, lighter skinned women, he acts with discrimination. Same for women that prefer men with X, Y, or Z traits. And for a man to prefer a woman - sexually - over a man is to have an aesthetic preference that discriminates against one of the sexes. There is not that great a degree of sexual dimorphism among humans anyways - not like there is among gorillas or baboons. In fact, some women are more “robust” in features than Justin Bieber. Women over 40 also begin to masculinize in their features according to forensic anthropologist. But I digress…

I think my point is a celibate priest is no more discrimnatory against women than a sexually active gay man that marries another man.
 
Let me say that I have no reason to believe that Jesus ever married. But, if we believe that nothing is impossible for God, his Son’s marriage is not out of the question. God can do whatever he wishes to do and is not limited by what our human minds can accept. I recall a young Jewish woman who conceived by the Holy Spirit – something that no one of that time was likely to have thought possible.
No, it is out of the question.

Jesus’ bride is the Church. The Church is the bride of Christ. There is no other. Our Lord and Savior is not an adulterer.

Anything is possible for God, but Jesus the two-timing adulterer is out of the question.

-Tim-
 
But wouldn’t you agree hunter that this is not really evidence? If it is a Gnostic text dating from the 4th century, it really isn’t earth shattering. It is generally accepted that gnosticism as a philosophy had its origins two centuries after the birth of Jesus. This at face value is not convincing of anything. Also, do you know if it is peer reviewed?

Or are you just jumping on this because Christianity is not your cup of tea:shrug:
Oh no i agree this is not a very reliable source, I’m just saying that if any such reliable ever was uncovered Christians would dismiss it.
 
Oh no i agree this is not a very reliable source, I’m just saying that if any such reliable ever was uncovered Christians would dismiss it.
Maybe with regards to some, but I think a lot Christians would have their faith rattled.
 
But wouldn’t you agree hunter that this is not really evidence? If it is a Gnostic text dating from the 4th century, it really isn’t earth shattering. It is generally accepted that gnosticism as a philosophy had its origins two centuries after the birth of Jesus. This at face value is not convincing of anything. Also, do you know if it is peer reviewed?

Or are you just jumping on this because Christianity is not your cup of tea:shrug:
It MAY be a Gnostic text from the 4th century translated into Coptic…that doesn’t mean it originated in the 4th century…only that it was translated into Coptic and the fragment we have is from the 4th century…when it was written and by whom is unknown.
 
Maybe with regards to some, but I think a lot Christians would have their faith rattled.
well i think those who would have their faith rattled are also the ones who do not understand the importance of Jesus being celibate to Christianity.
 
One would think one of the four gospel writers would be sure to document such a momentous occasion and celebration.
Some Mormon’s believe the wedding he attended at Cana was his own.

It doesn’t make much sense, but just saying, some say it does state it.

The news source I read the story from was very clear that it is a very short fragment from the fourth century which contains the line "Jesus said “My wife…” with the rest missing.

Even if the document itself is authentic (i.e. written in the fourth century) doesn’t mean anything either way.

The fact that Iraneus pointed out which of the Apostles was married (most of them), you’d think he would have mentioned our Savior being married as well.
 
According to huffingtonpost, there is a new document that was discovered suggesting that Jesus was married.

Gospel of Jesus wife discovered

I’m not sure where Christians stand on Jesus being married or single, but judging by the article, it sounds to alarmistic too me. Even if Christ was married, that still doesn’t hinder his teachings nor resurrection.

Thoughts?
Yeah, don’t believe anything the Huffington post says. Nothing.
 
It MAY be a Gnostic text from the 4th century translated into Coptic…that doesn’t mean it originated in the 4th century…only that it was translated into Coptic and the fragment we have is from the 4th century…when it was written and by whom is unknown.
true, that is why I asked if it was peer reviewed. Either way, if it is Gnostic, it would go as far back as the second century.
 
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