You say he isn’t a preacher, yet he starts every one of his “sermons” holding the Bible and having people repeat something like this: This is my Bible: I am what it says I am; I have what it says I have; I can do what it says I can do. …
He does begin that way, but we should accept everything in the scriptures. Not just the things that cause us to feel good and lead us to think that everything will always be “mountain top”. I’m all for being positive, but sometimes God may choose to lead us through valleys if that is what is ultimately best for us.
If he did that he’d lose a lot of his audience. They’re* not there to learn anything substantial or historic, they’re just there to get a pat on the head and then go on their way with smiles on their faces. Someone upthread commented that his sermons sound the same and why not change things up. Osteen doesn’t need to, the audience just wants to be spoon-fed the same feel-good stuff over and over and over…
you wont hear much about Christ either…
Yeah, it is kind of unfortunate, him leading a church and not being a preacher. But remember, the Joel Osteen we see on TV is only a portion of his Sunday service, and the gospel message may be in the part we don’t see. His church is huge, and employs many, many pastors, some of whom may actually be real preachers. I think his wife, Victoria, is a real preacher, though definitely WoF. His flock may be, and I sure hope they are, hearing some true gospel from them.
Another problem, women are not called to be preachers, pastors, or priests.
There is no other Gospel. There is only the good news preached by Jesus Christ recorded to us through the apostles.
If the gospel message about salvation was important to osteen, then I would assume that is what he would want broadcast. But no, he wants broadcast what brings in the dough.
Yeah, no doubt Osteen broadcasts what he considers most important. Still, it’s entirely possible, out of his huge church’s enormous resources, even though he doesn’t make it his priority, his sheep are getting fed. I’d like to hear from someone who goes there or has gone there.
Your church and mine (AG) differ on that.
We probably differ on a lot more things than women preachers.
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I absolutely agree with this. No your not being critical. As a former Protestant I could not even stomach Joel Olsteen. He is NOT what even Protestantism is about. He teaches everything contrary to the Bible and is a lover of all things money. His sucess is out of pure greed and nothing more and I agree it cheapens the Christian faith a hundred times. He believes of material wealth and nothing more. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He preaches of acculumating wealth but never will you hear him speak of using your money for the good of others, charity etc. He is a false prophet by every stretch of the means ( and this is the old Protestant in me speaking here).
Yes your right. In an appearance on Piers Morgan Tonight in January, 2011, Osteen mentioned that he had never attended seminary. In an earlier interview on Fox News in 2008 during the U.S. Presidential primary race, when discussing whether he thought that a Mormon was a Christian, Osteen indicated that he believed that they were, but further noted that he had not studied the religion.
TracyR;7844370) said:
I post on a variety of Christian forums, from Baptist Fundamentalist, to Catholic (this one), to Calvinist, to Emergent and liberal. I’m here, and on those others, both to learn what I don’t know, and to teach what I do know. I think all those different forms of Christianity have valuable lessons for us, and no one church or school of thought has a monopoly on truth.
I’m sure we do, though I’m pretty close to being Lutheran in a lot of ways, particularly on soteriology.