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Just like the Cathars who were willing to be face the pyres at the hands of the established church int 11th-13th cwnturies? They were willing to al face extermination by the thousands rather than give up their beliefs. Or the Lollards , or the Hussitea, or the Anabaptists who suffered at the hands of both the Catholic Church and the Reformed churches?Thanks for the helpful information from both of you. Especially for the clarification on the gospels’ dating too, Patrick. I have another question though…
If most of the gospels were written down 40 to 50 years after the death of Christ, would this be a possible time frame for the “myth” to develop. My friend still holds the view that Christ’s miracles (especially the resurrection) were legendary exaggerations developed between the death of Christ and the writing of the gospels. Of course there was an orally transmitted gospel before the written ones, but my friend believes that the oral gospels were simply inspirational stories of a wise teacher who died. It wasn’t until “renegade” Christian disciples decided to turn the historical and factual story of Jesus into one of legend and myth.
One rebuttal that I think I could use is why would the majority of the apostles along with thousands of other early Christians suffer persecution, disembowelment, stoning, hanging, and crucifixion for a mere “inspirational story?” I mean I find Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates inspirational, wise, and (for the most part) morally righteous teachers but I don’t think I would go to my death in their names.
How about the Huguenots? They face brutal and inhumane treatment from the Catholics in France…did that prove the truth of their beliefs?
Or the Mormons who by.the thousands refused to give up their bielief in the Book of Mormon and were driven from state to state, suffer burnings, beatings, tar and featherings, some hangings and shootings rather than give up their faith. Dying for a belief does not prove its truth, it only proves people are willing to face hardship Nd death for something they believe in.
That the early Christians most of whom never saw or heard an apostle speak let alone met one were willing to die for their new found faith proves nothing of its truth…only that good and sometimes fanatical people at that are willing to suffer for an ideal that has captured their hearts.
The Sufis Nd the Baha’is can provide similar stories of horror and death heaped upon them…are you saying “That proves the truth of their faith!”