The Hail Mary Prayer

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Albert,

“Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you, blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus.”

Sounds to me like you’re talking to her. You’re not just praising her. But, then again, why would you praise her if she can’t hear you? Then you are just talking to yourself, aren’t you? By praising Mary, you are talking to her.

Gene
 
Albert Kopsho:
mommy,

The difference is that I was Baptized and raised Catholic and I attend Mass every weekend, which means that I am a practicing Catholic. A practicing Catholic is a Baptized Catholic who attends Mass every weekend.

Albert
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I’d say you’re more of a “cafeteria” Catholic. You pick and choose what parts of the faith you want to believe.
 
Albert Kopsho:
mommy,

The difference is that I was Baptized and raised Catholic and I attend Mass every weekend, which means that I am a practicing Catholic. A practicing Catholic is a Baptized Catholic who attends Mass every weekend.

Albert
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Practicing does not equal faithfulness in every case. A Catholic gives assent of the heart and mind to all that the Church teaches.
 
Scriptual evidence for Mary’s sinlessness…

Here we go. Genesis 3:15 “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel”(new american bible)
The woman’s offspring who will strike(crush) the head of the serpent(defeat him) is acknowledged by all Christians to be Jesus. The enmity, or opposition, between the woman and the serpent is the same enmity that exsists between Jesus and the serpent. This enmity is total; the devil never ensnared Jesus in sin as he did Adam and Eve. Therefore, the woman, the mother of Jesus,would also never be ensnared in sin because she, too, is at total enmity with the serpent. This woman must be Mary. She cannot be Eve, who embraced the devil and turned away from God.

Shall I continue…

I shall be a defender of Mary.
 
Albert Kopsho:
mommy,

The difference is that I was Baptized and raised Catholic and I attend Mass every weekend, which means that I am a practicing Catholic. A practicing Catholic is a Baptized Catholic who attends Mass every weekend.

Albert
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You may have been baptised Catholic, but you are not a practising Catholic. Going to mass is only part of it, there is much more. And speaking out and living against every teaching of the church proves it. You need to sit down and have a serious discussion with a good priest.
 
Albert Kopsho:
Genesis315,

I have a problem with the second half of the Hail Mary Prayer because it is requesting that the Virgin Mary pray for us. Which is not possible because the Virgin Mary is dead and the Bible makes it to be undersdtood that the dead do not know what is going on on Earth.

Albert
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You are an antagonist aren’t you ALLLBERT:p If the Virgin Mary is DEAD we are all in trouble:tsktsk: Perhaps it is a reflection on your attitude about women,huh Albert!
 
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maryj:
Scriptual evidence for Mary’s sinlessness…

Here we go. Genesis 3:15 “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel”(new american bible)
The woman’s offspring who will strike(crush) the head of the serpent(defeat him) is acknowledged by all Christians to be Jesus. The enmity, or opposition, between the woman and the serpent is the same enmity that exsists between Jesus and the serpent. This enmity is total; the devil never ensnared Jesus in sin as he did Adam and Eve. Therefore, the woman, the mother of Jesus,would also never be ensnared in sin because she, too, is at total enmity with the serpent. This woman must be Mary. She cannot be Eve, who embraced the devil and turned away from God.

Shall I continue…

I shall be a defender of Mary.
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:amen: Couldn’t have said it better myself.:clapping:
 
Lisa4Catholics,

I am not an antagonist. Does everybody that posts on the forums here have to agree with everybody else? Jesus is the one who was crucified on the Cross for the sins of mankind. It was not the Virgin Mary or the Saints that were crucified on the Cross for the sins of mankind. So what is the point of asking the Virgin Mary and the Saints for intercession when the Virgin Mary and the Saints had nothing to do with taking away the sins of mankind?

Albert
 
Albert Kopsho:
Lisa4Catholics,

I am not an antagonist. Does everybody that posts on the forums here have to agree with everybody else? Jesus is the one who was crucified on the Cross for the sins of mankind. It was not the Virgin Mary or the Saints that were crucified on the Cross for the sins of mankind. So what is the point of asking the Virgin Mary and the Saints for intercession when the Virgin Mary and the Saints had nothing to do with taking away the sins of mankind?

Albert
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Well Albert I am just looking at the evidence.Two tthreads on the Catholic democrats subject,proclaiming to be Catholic yet you do NOT adhere to Catholic teachings even basic teachings such as the communion of Saints,abortion,among others.On top of that I posted several responses in you democrat posts you ignore,because you have no argument for it:p
 
ALBERT , I have read this thread.

You asked is it OK to omit the 2ed half of the “Hail Mary”.

Many have told you just what you needed to hear.

Now I will tell you that mentally and theologically YOU ARE PROTESTANT. I do not care that you go to Mass weekly. If you believe the Saints and Mary in heaven can’t hear a prayer then you are Protestant. You are protesting against Catholic teaching.

Did you notice that you are the only one who thinks St. Mary is dead?
 
Albert Kopsho:
RomanRiteTeen,

I am never going to become Protestant because I would not feel comfortable attending a church that does not have a liturgical worship service. Another reason that I am remaining Catholic is because I like to go to Saturday Vigil Mass so that I can do other things on Sunday like going to lunch and shopping. The Protestant Churches do not have Saturday Vigil Services. Where in the Bible are the doctrines of the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of the Virgin Mary mentioned?

Albert
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You like to go to “church” ( why dont you say Mass?) on Saturday in place of Sunday. ALBERT, where in the Bible (since you are a Sola Scriptura …Bible Only person) does it say a Saturday “Church” can take the place of a “Sunday” Church? Huh?
 
Here is a prayer that the Blessed Virgin Mary gave us at Fatima, Portugal (an approved and venerated apparition byt the Catholic Church) for people like you, Albert Kopsho:O my God, I believe, I adore, I trust, and I love Thee.

I ask pardon for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not trust, and do not love Thee.

If you ain’t asking the Mother of God to pray for you and lead her to her Son, then you do not truly believe, adore, trust, and love God.
 
Exporter,

I did not say that I like to go to church on Saturday I stated that I like to go to Saturday Vigil Mass instead of on Sunday morning. I do not care that Saturday Vigil Mass is not mentioned in the Bible because the Vatican approved Saturday Vigil Mass over 30 years ago and I do not like to go to Mass on Sunday morning so that I can do other things on Sunday. The only time that I go to Sunday morning Mass is on Easter Sunday because the Easter Vigil Mass on Holy Saturday is too long. Is it required that Catholics pray the second half of the Hail Mary Prayer?

Albert
 
Albert Kopsho:
Exporter,

I do not care that Saturday Vigil Mass is not mentioned in the Bible because the Vatican approved Saturday Vigil Mass over 30 years ago and I do not like to go to Mass on Sunday morning so that I can do other things on Sunday.
Albert
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The Vatican has also approved praying to Mary. The Vatican approved the Immaculate Conception. The Vatican has also approve transubstantiation. The Vatican has not only approved these things, it has declared them to be true. Seems like you only listen to the Vatican when it’s convenient for you.
 
Albert Kopsho:
maryprayforme,

The doctrines of the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of the Vigin Mary may be in the Catechism but those doctrines did not come from the Bible. Where in the Bible are the doctrines of the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of the Virgin Mary mentioned?
Albert
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Albert,

I still haven’t seen you response to my question.

Where in the Bible does it state that all doctrines will be found in the Bible?
 
Albert Kopsho:
JCPhoenix,

There is no place in the Bible that states that the Virgin Mary was concieved without sin and no place in the Bible does it mention the Assumption of the Virgin Mary. The Bible states that the Virgin Mary needed a savior. The Bible also states that there is only one mediator between God and Man and that is Jesus not the Virgin Mary. The Bible condemns communication with the dead. If I am on the membership roll of the local Catholic Church then that means that I am legally Catholic.

Albert
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I just want to share a story with you that I heard a speaker say towards people who think that you only believe what comes straight from scripture and nothing else. Say I keep letters over a period of many years that a family member or friend of mine write to one another. You will learn alot about our lives through that, but do you think that only what is written in those letters is everything that went on over the years certainly other things happened that were not included in there, so does that mean that only what was in the letters is all you can believe about my life do you think it just stops there. I think not.

Even John said that if he would have wrote everything that Jesus did throughout his myestery that no book could have contained all those works there were so many.

I think you come on these forums just to stir people up. I will pray for you.

God Bless, Kerri
 
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Q. 2. So what must a Catholic do to be entitled to the honour of being called a Catholic?

A. 2. He must meet all of the following criteria without exception:
  • be baptized.
  • continually strive to learn about the teachings of the Catholic Church.
  • through special strength of the Holy Spirit that was received during the Sacrament of Confirmation, spread and defend the faith by word and action as true witnesses of Christ, to confess the name of Christ boldly, and never to be ashamed of the Cross. [C.C.C. # 1303]
  • to go to Confession on a regular basis.
  • to receive the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist on a regular basis.
  • to go to Holy Mass every Sunday and on all days of obligation.
  • without exception, to accept all of the teachings of the Catholic Doors the Papacy, regarding the Magisterium, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Trinity, Salvation, Marian Dogmas, Papal Encyclicals, the proclamations of all the Church Councils and early Fathers, etc… This means renouncing abortion, same sex marriage, married priests, euthanasia, etc…
  • to marry within the Catholic Church through the Sacrament of Marriage unless a special dispensation has been received from the local Bishop.
  • to financially support his parish. He who seeks financial compensation from the church commits spiritual suicide.
  • to have a forgiving heart, being prepared to forgive anyone and everyone of their sin(s) no matter how horrible it may appear to be. Remember, Saint Paul was a murderer of Christians, including women and children.
  • total obedience to the Pope and one’s local Bishop who are responsible for maintaining the unity of the Catholic Church.
Finally, it should be said that he who corrupts one or more dogmas of the Catholic Church by rejecting or distorting them, be it on the matter of going to Church on Sunday or on the subject of birth control pills, he is a heretic because he adheres to heresy(ies). A heritic can no longer claim to be a Catholic!
 
Lisa4Catholics,

Does everybody that posts on these forums have to agree with everybody else that posts on these forums? Jesus is the one who was crucified on the Cross for the sins of mankind. It was not the Virgin Mary or the Saints that were crucified on the Cross for the sins of mankind. So what is the point of asking the Virgin Mary and the Saints for intercessions if they had nothing to do with taking away the sins of mankind?

Albert
 
rayne89,

It has been stated on these forums that Catholics have to go to individual confession and not to Communal Reconciliation Service with General Absolution in order to be faithful Catholics. Well my father’s youngest brother llives up north in my father’s home town and goes to the nearest Catholic Church 3 miles away in the town where my father graduated from High School and that Catholic Church only has Communal Reconciliation Service with General Absolution and my father’s youngest brother has not been to individual confession in years since that Catholic Church does not offer individual confession and my father’s youngest brother is considered a faithful Catholic.

Albert
 
Albert, you asked for scriptual evidence that Mary was sinless, I have given you one example. Why is it that you do not respond to this? I will have to assume that you agree with this evidence thus making this discussion a farce, I hope and pray you will find your answers if that is truly what you seek is the truth. God show you mercy, and truth, I on the other hand will show you evidence if you wish!!

I shall be a defender of Mary.
 
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