The haves and have nots

[twinc]

To have is to hold we are told - “to those who have more will be given and to those who have not it shall be taken away that which they have[not anyway]” - anyone care or dare to explain - twinc

 

[st_lucy]

To have is to hold we are told - “to those who have more will be given and to those who have not it shall be taken away that which they have[not anyway]” - anyone care or dare to explain - twinc

Can you show where this quote come from?

 

[Redratfish]

To have is to hold we are told - “to those who have more will be given and to those who have not it shall be taken away that which they have[not anyway]” - anyone care or dare to explain - twinc

I am not sure, (as my study Bible recently misplaced), but I think it was refering to someone’s understanding of faith. The more you have, the more you want to find more faith, the less you have, the most you ignore it.

 

[Redratfish]

Can you show where this quote come from?

Matthew 13:12

 

[st_lucy]

[11] Who answered and said to them: Because to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven: but to them it is not given. [12] For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound: but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath. [13] Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [14] And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith: By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand: and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. [15] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

If you read the passage in context we can see that Jesus is talking about having faith.

 

[thistle]

To have is to hold we are told - “to those who have more will be given and to those who have not it shall be taken away that which they have[not anyway]” - anyone care or **dare to explain **- twinc

Why don’t you ever give your opinion on matters instead of making these silly comments!
You act like all forum members are little kids who know nothing and you know everything!!

If you really want an explanation (and I really don’t think you do because in other threads when people give you answers you ignore them) see the Haydock Commentary below:

Ver. 12. But he that hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath. We read again, (Matthew xxv. 29.) That also which he seemeth to have, shall be taken away; and in St. Luke, (Chap. viii. 18.) That also which he thinketh he hath. One passage helps to expound another: so that each of these texts, with a little reflection, will be found true; and such a truth, as ought to be a subject of fear and apprehension to all that are negligent and indolent in the service of God. For, as St. Augustine observes, they who have received graces and favours from God, and have not made good use and profited by them, they may be said not to have them, although they are not yet take from them. And why? but because they make no more use of them, than if they had them not. See the parables of the talents, Matthew xxv, and Luke xix. (Witham) — He that hath, to him shall be given the knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of God. But such as are incredulous, and resist my words, like the Pharisees and other Jews, so far from being enriched with my spiritual gifts in my kingdom, shall even be deprived of the benefits they now possess. Thus the Jews were deprived of their temple, priesthood, kingdom, and even the true worship of God. (St. Jerome) — They rejected Jesus Christ, the fountain and corner-stone of virtue; all therefore they had acquired, or possessed, shall be taken from them, and given to the apostles. (St. Jerome) — Whoever has a desire of complying with the divine precepts, that desire shall not only be increased, but all other virtues shall be added unto him; but if he be devoid of this desire, the virtues he already possesses, or seems to possess, shall be taken from him, not that God will deprive him of these without cause, but he will render himself unworthy of them. (St. Chrysostom)

 

[twinc]

If you read the passage in context we can see that Jesus is talking about having faith.

yes all well and good but how is it possible to take something from nothing - btw reference your apt abortion citation the answer could be “the neighbour’s children” by Mary Webb in 1927 as if in anticipation of the coming slaughter in her book Poems and Spring of Joy

• twinc

 

[dnu]

I saw “haves” and “have nots” and I totally thought this thread was going to be about Marxism.