Nate123, I will not be replying to all of the comments that are posted for a very simple reason: the subject matter is all addressed in the PDF document for which I have provided a link.
So, if you will take the time to read the detailed critique I have offered as a download, you will see that what I present is firmly rooted in the teachings of the Church. If you will not do that, then I have nothing more to say.
I reacted so fast because of some of the things you said were contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Namely about God sending punishment. Lets me breakdown 1472. It says:
“These two punishments (eternal and temporal) must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without, but as following from the very nature of sin.” (CCC 1472)
The first line says “These two punishments must not be conceived of as a kind of vengeance inflicted by God from without.” It says that the punishments eternal and temporal are not a vengeance inflicted by God from without. It pretty clear in that it says it is not from God. When it says “from without it” it talking about a system. It not that God is sending the suffering down to us but they happen by themselves from within.
The next part says “as following from the very nature of sin.” Here it says that the two punishments follow from the
NATURE of sin. Not from God but from what sin does. This is further provable from a quote from Pope Emeritus Benedict when he was Cardinal:
“The wrath of God is a way of saying that I have been living in a way that is contrary to the love that is God. Anyone who begins to live and grow away from God, who lives away from what is good, is turning his life toward wrath. Whoever falls away from love is moving into negativity. So that is not something that some dictator with a lust for power inflicts on you, but is simply a way of expressing the inner logic of a certain action. If I move outside the area of what is compatible with the ideal model by which I am created, if I move beyond the love that sustains me, well then, I just fall into the void, into darkness. I am then no longer in the realm of love, so to speak, but in a realm that can be seen as the realm of wrath.
When God inflicts punishment, this is not punishment in the sense that God has, as it were, drawn up a system of fines and penalties and is wanting to pin one on you. “The punishment of God” is in fact an
expression for having missed the right road and then experiencing the consequences that follow from taking the wrong track and wandering away from the right way of living.(“God and the World “pg .104)"
You said: “if you will read Salvifici Doloris by Pope St. John Paul II you will see that Christ has given immeasurable value to suffering–raising it to the level of being redemptive.”
I reply: Yes I have read most of it. Yes are suffering have been raised to the same as Jesus sufferings. Because he suffers
with us. But suffering still remains of no value and are evils. The value is that Jesus is suffering with us and we are given the same power to crush evil. I replied for I think its important to see suffering for what it is. Not saying that you don’t, just was pointing to the fact that God opposes suffering.