The high cost of Protestant hatred

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Andrew Greeley
**The high cost of Protestant hatred **

September 23, 2005

**BY ANDREW GREELEY**

The Protestant violence in Northern Ireland continues to prevent in that part of the island the astonishing prosperity that the rest of Ireland enjoys.
Last week there was more violence in Northern Ireland. Some news reports had hard-line Protestants fighting with hard-line Catholics. In fact, Catholics weren’t involved at all. The Parades Commission, which regulates the paths of the Orange Order sectarian hate parades, required a parade to follow a path that did not go through a Catholic neighborhood. That was an occasion for a well-planned and -organized militant Protestant outburst against their own almost entirely Protestant police force and the British army. The militants, two violent Protestant groups who have also been routinely killing one another, managed to wound more than 40 Protestant cops. The IRA, note well, hasn’t done anything like that for many years. The Rev. Ian Paisley, head of the Ulster Democratic Party, blamed the Parades Commission and called for a reform “in root and branch” of the commission – doubtless so that the Orange Order, which is all too ready to wound and risk killing Protestant police, can pound its drums and march through Catholic neighborhoods again.
 
My priest, who is Irish, just came back from Dublin last week after a month of traveling Ireland to visit relatives. He told us all about this violence. He is sad and angry. He used it as a great example of intolerence.
These orangemen remind me of the KKK marches in Skokie, IL. which has a high population of Jews. They march to stir up controversy only.
 
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These orangemen remind me of the KKK marches in Skokie, IL. which has a high population of Jews. They march to stir up controversy only.
Isn’t that the truth. Every time the allow the KKK to march in Skokie it makes me so mad. Why do they have the right? Sometimes freedom of expression is really evil.
 
These orangemen remind me of the KKK marches in Skokie, IL. which has a high population of Jews. They march to stir up controversy only.
Every time the allow the KKK to march in Skokie it makes me so mad. Why do they have the right? Sometimes freedom of expression is really evil.
Respectfully, I suggest you both check your facts and your memories.

The KKK has never marched in Skokie, IL. The National Socialist (Nazi) Party applied for a permit to march in Skokie back in 1977 and the ACLU defended them. The march in downtown Skokie actually never took place as planned. A handful of Nazis ended up marching in Marquette Park instead in June of 1978. That was it. There’s never been a Nazi or KKK march in Skokie. Ever. Check this link:

history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/skokie/home.htm
 
Very interesting site. Also very red. 😃 Thanks.
In any event, the Nazis wanting to march through a village that is overwhelmingly Jewish, is for no other reason than to stir up trouble. They can call it 1st ammendment rights validation all they want. The result is only trouble.
The orangemen marching through Catholic neighborhoods in Ireland accomplishs the same. Only trouble.
It would be the same if the KKK marched through Oakland, CA. or abortion advocates marched around my parish church. Sure, according to the constitution they CAN do it, but should they?
A line should be drawn.
 
I used to be all for lines being drawn; I thought the First Ammendment went too far. In some cases, it does, but only because the courts have stretched it to cover pornography.
I have come to the realization that, if we limit the KKK or Nazis (believe me, I’m no fan), then we have nothing to say when the authorties charge father with hate speech for teaching the evil of homosexual “marriage” from the pulpit on Sunday.
Couldn’t happen, you say? It has happened — in Canada.
I don’t have the link, but I’m sure if you did a search of this site, you’d find thread or two on this.
I do know that Joseph Pearce, before his conversion to Catholicism, was a skinhead in England and was arrested for things he printed in a newsletter. He did hard time for it. (His conversion on “Coming Home”).
Or try debating with your “reivisionist history” professor about the facts of the founding of the United States, only to fail the course because of it.
We may hate what they say with all our wrath, but be very, very careful of messing with the Frist Ammentment.
Oh, and did you notice Greely just couldn’t resist taking a few gratuitous swipes at the U.S.?
 
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Respectfully, I suggest you both check your facts and your memories.

The KKK has never marched in Skokie, IL. The National Socialist (Nazi) Party applied for a permit to march in Skokie back in 1977 and the ACLU defended them. The march in downtown Skokie actually never took place as planned. A handful of Nazis ended up marching in Marquette Park instead in June of 1978. That was it. There’s never been a Nazi or KKK march in Skokie. Ever. Check this link:

history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/skokie/home.htm
I am sorry, it was a rally I was hearing about. I thought it was a march because they have marched in Chicago area several times in my lifetime. I have heard it reported but don’t actually go to see it.
zipple.com/newsandpolitics/usnews/20001218_kkk.shtml

**Clashing with the KKK
**Protesters clash with KKK, ignoring advice
to stay away

By PAULINE DUBKIN YEARWOOD
Chicago Jewish News
December 18, 2000

CHICAGO—Ignoring the advice of clergy and community leaders, about 400 protesters showed up at a Ku Klux Klan rally here over the weekend that ended in a series of skirmishes between police and counterdemonstrators.

Police kept an angry crowd 500 yards away from the approximately 20 Klan members during 45 minutes of anti-Jewish and anti-African American speeches at Saturday’s rally in Skokie.

Violence broke out at the end of the rally as some protesters confronted police and Klan members. Police arrested 20 individuals.
 
Back on topic, the IRA just turned over its cache of weapons yesterday or the day before…
 
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