The historicity of Moses and the Exodus account

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When you quote someone, a small picture of their profile is at the top of the post. If one clicks this, it should bring you to the post that I am referring to (which was you responding to someone bringing alleged parallels to Apollonius using overly generalized things).
 
Since you also seem to refute the relevance of Apollonius of Tyana then better you reply to them than me. I still don’t know which movie you are referring to.
 
Some time later he seemed to refer to a comedy concerning the topic.
Wanted to you know that that should never be an example of the myth conspiracy theorists, as you seemed to think it was being used in such a manner.
 
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I said “part of the Christ-Myth theory” i didn’t say it was the theory. Quote from the Wikipedia page on it:

In his 1949 book The Hero with a Thousand Faces, comparative mythology scholar Joseph Campbell lists both Apollonius and Jesus as examples of individuals who shared similar hero stories, along with Krishna, Buddha, and others.[18]Similarly, Robert M. Price in his 2011 The Christ-Myth Theory and its Problems, notes that the ancients often compared Jesus with Apollonius and that they both fit the mythic hero archetype

So clearly it’s used by the most prominent Christ-myth proponents to try and justify their silliness.
 
goout said:
Belief is about response to something and someone, not just intellectual assent. It’s not about verification, it’s about plunging forward into trust.

You have to trust someone in life.

Who are you going to trust? (don’t put your trust in me that’s not the point at all…)

Who do you place your faith and trust in? Not for your material well being, but for your identity before God, the meaning of your life, the vehicle for your salvation.

Who? Are you going to rely on yourself, or is there a community to help you?

The way I came to trust the inspiration of scripture is that I read it, and gave it a chance, and the life of Christ came through it and changed my life.
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I can say that I trust, for the time being, in no higher authority than the world we live in, at least I know the world exists.

Yes the scripture can include good stuff, but so King Lear, so 1984, why should I say it is divine?
 
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goout:
Belief is about response to something and someone, not just intellectual assent. It’s not about verification, it’s about plunging forward into trust.

You have to trust someone in life.

Who are you going to trust? (don’t put your trust in me that’s not the point at all…)

Who do you place your faith and trust in? Not for your material well being, but for your identity before God, the meaning of your life, the vehicle for your salvation.

Who? Are you going to rely on yourself, or is there a community to help you?

The way I came to trust the inspiration of scripture is that I read it, and gave it a chance, and the life of Christ came through it and changed my life.
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I can say that I trust, for the time being, in no higher authority than the world we live in, at least I know the world exists.

Yes the scripture can include good stuff, but so King Lear, so 1984, why should I say it is divine?
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King Lear and 1984 are great writings, but don’t address the same issues as scripture. They don’t propose ultimate purpose, meaning, identity for us. They don’t propose saving truth or timeless goodness for us. They contribut to our understanding of life, but not at the same level of profundity.
 
goout said:
King Lear and 1984 are great writings, but don’t address the same issues as scripture. They don’t propose ultimate purpose, meaning, identity for us. They don’t propose saving truth or timeless goodness for us. They contribut to our understanding of life, but not at the same level of profundity.
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Well they’re very profound, they touch so many things of their age. We might collect some profound plays and novels and get ourselves a new Bible as well.

Well there’s Qur’an, yes it is absurd but sometimes I feel the same about the Bible in certain places.
There are the four Vedas for the Hindus as well.

So why then should one choose or trust the Bible?
 
Hey, its been some time but I have been asking others this question too and have been searching stuff about it, and it seems both of us were wrong.
What was bothering me about the post was, I have never seen this objection anywhere else and it seems like an easy one to make. The thing is, the author is putting things out of context mildly.
He says that the second time God Himself wrote the New Ten Commandments and that is right. But then he goes on to say that they are different in exodus 34. If you actually study the text as a whole and not just going from verse 14, you will notice that the 10 commandments were written down again, and then after a short monologue where God says how he will punish sin and do wonders to their nation, a different 10 commandments are written down, these ones being ritualistic.
Now I may not explain this the best but this helps : https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/you-asked-which-is-the-real-ten-commandments/
Read the whole thing and it makes a lot more sense.

And when ti comes to the different names, here are 2 good sources :
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Why two names for Moses Mountain? Sacred Scripture
In Exodus 3:1 the mountain Moses brought Israel to is called Horeb. In Exodus 19:11 the mountain God descends on is called Sinai. Why are there two names for this pivotal mountain of history?:confused:
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when it comes to the names :


I think personally to me, things are starting to make more sense
 
Great, I’m going to start reading those, just in time thanks a lot.
But what about the Authorship and the Document theory?
 
The book called The Bible Codes by Michael Drosnin may interest you.

https://www.amazon.ca/Bible-Code-Michael-Drosnin/dp/0684849739

From the book…

0n September 1, 1994, I flew to Israel and met in Jerusalem with a close friend of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, the poet Chaim Guri. I gave him a letter which he immediately gave to the Prime Minister.

“An Israeli mathematician has discovered a hidden code in the Bible that appears to reveal the details of events that took place thousands of years after the Bible was written,” my letter to Rabin stated.

“The reason I’m telling you about this is that the only time your full name Yitzhak Rabin is encoded in the Bible, the words ‘assassin that will assassinate’ cross your name.”

On November 4, 1995, came the awful confirmation, a shot in the back from a man who believed he was on a mission from God, the murder that was encoded in the Bible three thousand years ago.
 
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From the book…

0n September 1, 1994, I flew to Israel and met in Jerusalem with a close friend of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, the poet Chaim Guri. I gave him a letter which he immediately gave to the Prime Minister.

“An Israeli mathematician has discovered a hidden code in the Bible that appears to reveal the details of events that took place thousands of years after the Bible was written,” my letter to Rabin stated.

“The reason I’m telling you about this is that the only time your full name Yitzhak Rabin is encoded in the Bible, the words ‘assassin that will assassinate’ cross your name.”

On November 4, 1995, came the awful confirmation, a shot in the back from a man who believed he was on a mission from God, the murder that was encoded in the Bible three thousand years ago.
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I come from an Islamic background and people used to make numerical miracles out of the Qur’an and yeah those numbers could be used to mean any anything.
 
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