The Homeless and their courage

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I have been in regular contact with the homeless community and I have seen their struggles up close. They may be poor and without a home yet they help one another in searching for services and necessities. They are grateful to those that prepare them meals not always by word but by assisting them with clean up duties or by not complaining. The services (out there) rendered for them is minimal despite what I seem to hear from many well intentioned readers. Let’s pray more for their safety and well being. :frighten::frighten::winter::crutches:

Thank you.
 
I have been in regular contact with the homeless community and I have seen their struggles up close. They may be poor and without a home yet they help one another in searching for services and necessities. They are grateful to those that prepare them meals not always by word but by assisting them with clean up duties or by not complaining. The services (out there) rendered for them is minimal despite what I seem to hear from many well intentioned readers. Let’s pray more for their safety and well being. :frighten::frighten::winter::crutches:

Thank you.
I’m on disability with limited income. The thought of my someday becoming homeless produces great anxiety in me, and I doubt that I could endure it if it ever happened. I’m not as courageous as many homeless people.

LOVE! ❤️
 
Prayers said for all those who are homeless that services to help alleviate the issues that make them homeless may be made available to them. May they be safe and protected in their situation. We pray in thanksigiving for all those who extend a helping hand to the homeless. May God bless them abundantly.

Mary.
 
Thank you, Wilt, for writing about the homeless. I agree with everything you wrote above.

Robert & Mary, God bless you both. Thanks to you as well for what you wrote.
 
Thank you, Wilt, for writing about the homeless. I agree with everything you wrote above.

Robert & Mary, God bless you both. Thanks to you as well for what you wrote.
Thanks again for everyone’s prayers:thumbsup:
 
I have been in regular contact with the homeless community and I have seen their struggles up close. They may be poor and without a home yet they help one another in searching for services and necessities. They are grateful to those that prepare them meals not always by word but by assisting them with clean up duties or by not complaining. The services (out there) rendered for them is minimal despite what I seem to hear from many well intentioned readers. Let’s pray more for their safety and well being. :frighten::frighten::winter::crutches:

Thank you.
The most important service offered to them is usually refused, and results in them remaining on the streets, help with substance abuse. Mental Health-welfare becomes a complex issue.

The services offered further become limited for example due to criminal records-felony convictions etc. Many shelters are not equipped to deal with children and on and on.

Its very difficult to help the real issues when you are first mitigating basic needs such as food and protection from the elements, while overlooking substance abuse. Often this occurs by priority. For example its a priority I don’t allow another to freeze to death on a sidewalk at night. However, as we move past the critical point the issue often becomes a resistance to comply with rules.

There are entire camps of homeless who refuse to conform to simple structure which within help resides. Maybe not as one would like, but then thats the bigger issue of mental health and Dept of Welfare etc.
 
"As many as 3.5 million Americans are homeless each year. Of these, more than 1 million are children and on any given night, more than 300,000 children are homeless.

“While the general impression is that the homeless are primarily the chronic and episodic, those unfortunate individuals often seen living on the streets in the downtown areas of our cities, the fact is that more than half the homeless are families with children.”
homeaid.org/homeaid-stories/69/top-causes-of-homelessness

We must be made aware of all the children! How can a civilized society allow any of its children to be homeless? OK, we can come up with all sorts of reasoning why people become homeless through their own fault, such as through substance abuse, but the innocent children?

LOVE! ❤️
 
"As many as 3.5 million Americans are homeless each year. Of these, more than 1 million are children and on any given night, more than 300,000 children are homeless.

“While the general impression is that the homeless are primarily the chronic and episodic, those unfortunate individuals often seen living on the streets in the downtown areas of our cities, the fact is that more than half the homeless are families with children.”
homeaid.org/homeaid-stories/69/top-causes-of-homelessness

We must be made aware of all the children! How can a civilized society allow any of its children to be homeless? OK, we can come up with all sorts of reasoning why people become homeless through their own fault, such as through substance abuse, but the innocent children?

LOVE! ❤️
Agreed!
 
I might also say that society allowing children to become homeless is a crime of child neglect committed by society and whoever else has the means to help but turns their heads away.

LOVE! ❤️
 
We “know” there’s a problem, and its not “we should do something” which is the usual path which ends up with little done. What should “we” do, and more importantly what are “you” doing as an individual?

If we can’t take care of our homeless, how is it we are caring for Central Americas?

Its not an emotional passing thought but a factual reality and one many of us are very aware of.

Its not a shame on america and how can we allow this to happen thread etc. Its “what are we going to do” and more important “when”?
 
We “know” there’s a problem, and its not “we should do something” which is the usual path which ends up with little done. What should “we” do, and more importantly what are “you” doing as an individual?

If we can’t take care of our homeless, how is it we are caring for Central Americas?

Its not an emotional passing thought but a factual reality and one many of us are very aware of.

Its not a shame on america and how can we allow this to happen thread etc. Its “what are we going to do” and more important “when”?
No matter what some righteous people may be doing, I do not think that homelessness will be successfully dealt with until the mass media tells people what a disgrace it is for our society to allow such meaningless pain and suffering to be inflicted upon our fellow citizens. Look at how fast gay rights was promoted in our world largely because of the mass media who radically changed people’s beliefs and attitudes. Homelessness too will someday grow into a mighty social issue that will result in people becoming truly empathic towards them, and then the ball will start rolling so that the problem is solved.

LOVE! ❤️
 
No matter what some righteous people may be doing, I do not think that homelessness will be successfully dealt with until the mass media tells people what a disgrace it is for our society to allow such meaningless pain and suffering to be inflicted upon our fellow citizens. Look at how fast gay rights was promoted in our world largely because of the mass media who radically changed people’s beliefs and attitudes. Homelessness too will someday grow into a mighty social issue that will result in people becoming truly empathic towards them, and then the ball will start rolling so that the problem is solved.

LOVE! ❤️
Sadly though, comparing the gay rights lobby with most homeless advocates is like apples and oranges. What I mean is, the people promoting gay rights are highly motivated and seem to be at the top of their game. The homeless and those who help them are always just barely getting by, in survival mode - not exactly the glamorous lifestyles which keep our mass media’s attention. This thread reminded me of the dome village for the homeless I used to see when I worked in Downtown L.A. domevillage.tedhayes.us It is gone now, since that valuable real estate was needed for something else, but it seemed like a good idea while it lasted.

Aside from underage runaways, a separate serious problem, homeless children are usually destitute because of their parent’s situation. We cannot help one without the other.
 
No matter what some righteous people may be doing, I do not think that homelessness will be successfully dealt with until the mass media tells people what a disgrace it is for our society to allow such meaningless pain and suffering to be inflicted upon our fellow citizens. Look at how fast gay rights was promoted in our world largely because of the mass media who radically changed people’s beliefs and attitudes. Homelessness too will someday grow into a mighty social issue that will result in people becoming truly empathic towards them, and then the ball will start rolling so that the problem is solved.

LOVE! ❤️
They simply do not have the funding, help, or plausible plan to help. And the existing help, theres a problem there. Band-aides on a sinking ship. Its gonna get worse. I just spent a few hrs Sunday at the shelter. I talked to a fellow I knew from years ago. 14O milligrams of Methadone daily, 5-Oxycontins, 3mg Zanax a day and a few Motrins. Whoever gave him that med ought to be fed it themselves. He’s depressed. Pretty much the hospice prescription when your at deaths door.

Hope is paralyzing without an active plan.
 
No matter what some righteous people may be doing, I do not think that homelessness will be successfully dealt with until the mass media tells people what a disgrace it is for our society to allow such meaningless pain and suffering to be inflicted upon our fellow citizens. Look at how fast gay rights was promoted in our world largely because of the mass media who radically changed people’s beliefs and attitudes. Homelessness too will someday grow into a mighty social issue that will result in people becoming truly empathic towards them, and then the ball will start rolling so that the problem is solved.

LOVE! ❤️
Interesting Robert Stock. Yes mass media has been a great support of the gay movement. But since homeless people are considered and treated as failures in this highly self centered, self righteous society there will continue to be very little attention given to them.:sad_bye:
 
But since homeless people are considered and treated as failures in this highly self centered, self righteous society there will continue to be very little attention given to them.:sad_bye:
Its a perception and along with many others. But then too thats human behavior, and success is how people are indeed measured especially in the materialistic USA. So this is much deeper than homelessness. Its a cultural attitude we breed in America. And we are adding to this cultural view. Not correcting it.

But, I assure you the substance abuse is a factor which statistically effects 87% be it alcohol or drugs. 10-years ago there was absolutely no reason to be on the street, unless you chose to live this way. In fact the police would scoop them up whenever they came by them, and drop them off. However shelters just don’t feed you and give you a bed. You cannot be drunk or high because there are children involved along with a host of other issues they present. So a good deal even here is behavior, even when drugs are not involved. Today its a little different since the welfare population increased and housing is selective. You have 25% of the worlds incarcerated here in the US and without mental health aside from intake screening that’s it, just to make sure they are not suicidal, delusional etc. So in fact we are creating mental heath issues and dangerous ones in crime school. Muslims recruit in these places, gangs recruit and muslims are a gang in prison. And most insane is we are placing some very workable people in these situations to feed the revolving door syndrome. The DOC is Americas better money maker and employer. So in effect in this regard we are “abusing” people. And for petty nothingness, and if they play their cards wrong in there they may never leave again. And when they are out and with a record by large they are not able to receive housing and various programs which they are excluded from. They don’t have equal rights.

State to state it varies. For example homeless in some states equates to a ride to the state line or incarceration for vagrancy which is a crime for example in Florida and enforced and in other states especially transient.

And its no secret who in fact is always helping, By large the Catholic Church and other congregations. So now, we want to strangle their finance, and in the final analysis who do you suppose will pay the price?

Our mental heath problem begins with our American lifestyle which is why the Pope called it the culture of death.

We are talking throw away people here and most people will avoid contact with them so it doesn’t rub off on their success and idea of it.

And also as the Pope has repetitively stated you need to get out and reach out to the other side. Its not enough to be encapsulated in ones own life and home. And thats the attitude that most Americans have.

Can you help them all and change thw problem, you can add to the success rate, you can help someone in this situation who is behaving and being overlooked etc.

If the attitude continues so will the problems, you can’t ignore them, lie to public to pretend to look good and appear as if something is being done, Nothing has been done the past decade, in fact the problems are all worse. And the fairy tale that by 2025 poverty will cease to exist is just that, paralyzing hope thats not coming. Theres no need to pretend things are better than they are or getting better. Its doesn’t help. And thats all thats occured the past decade.

And the mental heath, don’t even get me started on that. Its sickening how we treat people out here, and we think we were barbaric 20-30 years ago and now reached a level of humanity never achieved before. Simply another lie and false perception to think “at least we treat people better than we use to”. Its a clever lie. :sad_yes:

How do you in your wildest dream suppose we would abort 1-million a year and care for throw away proven failures? And the elderly, I can’t imagine they find much comfort in all this. If the VA lets you die, I assure you so will the state and every other money making so called private care will also.

And the STDs we allow to run rampant. Just this point for perspective, Hep C. to treat today cost 84 thousand dollars for 12-24 weeks of treatment. Just Hep C. And we are allowing TB and long list of others “new” to America in at the border and taxing an over taxed system.

Yet those who sit around and do nothing like most Americas about these problems will cheer Obama on as if he is Jesus Christ.

You want to know just how few help out? Go to your local Shelter and just look at the Volunteer list. They all have one and keep track who is coming and going and when. They must to plan meals. And you will see how many Americas actually help out, and its not many. Course this doesn’t account for donations, but those are more seasonal, like Christmas and so forth.
 
They simply do not have the funding, help, or plausible plan to help. And the existing help, theres a problem there. Band-aides on a sinking ship. Its gonna get worse. I just spent a few hrs Sunday at the shelter. I talked to a fellow I knew from years ago. 14O milligrams of Methadone daily, 5-Oxycontins, 3mg Zanax a day and a few Motrins. Whoever gave him that med ought to be fed it themselves. He’s depressed. Pretty much the hospice prescription when your at deaths door.

Hope is paralyzing without an active plan.
Just wait until the mass media says that homelessness reflects a disgraceful and immoral society. Then you will see just how fast a truly effective plan is developed and proper funding is found.

LOVE! :health:
 
Just wait until the mass media says that homelessness reflects a disgraceful and immoral society. Then you will see just how fast a truly effective plan is developed and proper funding is found.

LOVE! :health:
I believe we are headed for a brighter day, but we sure had to hit an all time low before we decided to turn this around. I just think painting a picture that isn’t at all accurate is deceptive. And by large this is what we have been spoon fed for close to a decade.

We need to see Christ in all these people. Its not for us to judge and subject them to our idea of what American success it. I’d rather be broke and sleeping on the park bench to save my soul, then promote a completely erroneous perception of ethical morality and values and lose my soul.

Peace 🙂
 
No matter what some righteous people may be doing, I do not think that homelessness will be successfully dealt with until the mass media tells people **what a disgrace it is for our society to allow **such meaningless pain and suffering to be inflicted upon our fellow citizens.
And once again we conveniently overlook the facts because in our opinion, we know what is best for them and our sympathy has blinded us to them as human persons!

Have you personally talked with the homeless? I have. Have you observed their behavior and characteristics? I have. Have you actually listened to what they say and take note of their own opinions and desires and what they do not care for?

Can you recognize the fact that the majority (at least the ones I’ve come into contact with) do not hold to our standards of living? Can you understand that for many of them being homeless, despite it’s obvious hardships, is a principle of freedom without restraint and one they are not willing to give up?

To us they are in the worst possible circumstance. But to them it is their own free choice so what would you do to prevent their free will? Are you going to force them into shelters (which would be tantamount to them as being imprisoned?) Some of them would consider that the very worst possible scenario which would take away the last vestiges of their dignity. So please tell us …what would you have us do to forcibly improve their condition?
 
And once again we conveniently overlook the facts because in our opinion, we know what is best for them and our sympathy has blinded us to them as human persons!

Have you personally talked with the homeless? I have. Have you observed their behavior and characteristics? I have. Have you actually listened to what they say and take note of their own opinions and desires and what they do not care for?

Can you recognize the fact that the majority (at least the ones I’ve come into contact with) do not hold to our standards of living? Can you understand that for many of them being homeless, despite it’s obvious hardships, is a principle of freedom without restraint and one they are not willing to give up?

To us they are in the worst possible circumstance. But to them it is their own free choice so what would you do to prevent their free will? Are you going to force them into shelters (which would be tantamount to them as being imprisoned?) Some of them would consider that the very worst possible scenario which would take away the last vestiges of their dignity. So please tell us …what would you have us do to forcibly improve their condition?
It’s those types of beliefs, which seem deeply ingrained in our society, to look the other way when encountering the homeless. To say that the homeless, as a whole, actually want to be homeless is utter nonsense!

1 John 3:17-18
“If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.”

“Whoever shuts their ears to the cry of the poor will also cry out and not be answered.”
~ Proverbs 21:13

Isaiah 58:7-10

Thus says the Lord:
Share your bread with the hungry,
and shelter the homeless poor,
clothe the man you see to be naked
and do not turn from your own kin.
Then will your light shine like the dawn
and your wound be quickly healed over.

Your integrity will go before you
and the glory of the Lord behind you.
Cry, and the Lord will answer;
call, and he will say, ‘I am here.’

If you do away with the yoke,
the clenched fist, the wicked word,
if you give your bread to the hungry,
and relief to the oppressed,
your light will rise in the darkness,
and your shadows become like noon.

Do you read the Bible? Do you believe it and try to follow it?

LOVE! ❤️
 
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