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AlanFromWichita
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Didn’t Ralph Nader run against the president in the last election? Not that it would cause any bias, of course.
Also, 89 members of Congress have asked a question? Wow.
As I recall, senator Kerry was among those beating the war drums, was he not? At the time was he falsely interpreting intelligence on purpose so that he could talk Bush into war and then use it against him in the campaign?
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Celia
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Didn’t Ralph Nader run against the president in the last election? Not that it would cause any bias, of course.
Also, 89 members of Congress have asked a question? Wow.
As I recall, senator Kerry was among those beating the war drums, was he not? At the time was he falsely interpreting intelligence on purpose so that he could talk Bush into war and then use it against him in the campaign?
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Really? How did you hear about Kerry doing that?
Also, 89 members of Congress have asked a question? Wow.
As I recall, senator Kerry was among those beating the war drums, was he not? At the time was he falsely interpreting intelligence on purpose so that he could talk Bush into war and then use it against him in the campaign?
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Really? How did you hear about Kerry doing that?
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didymus
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Impeach Cheney FIRST, then Bush.
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BLB_Oregon
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Republican-controlled Congress. Both Houses.
Unless Mr. Bush posts the red-button codes on the Internet, it ain’t gonna happen.
Unless Mr. Bush posts the red-button codes on the Internet, it ain’t gonna happen.
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mlchance
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Never us mind that President Bush hasn’t done anything impeachable.
– Mark L. Chance.
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Lisa_N
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Mark, Mark, Mark…haven’t we already concluded that the facts do NOT matter? Also as usual the two writers claim that Clinton’s impeachment was due to minor sexual pecadillos, not due to his lying and obstruction of justice. But again, the blue dress caper makes so much better headlines than mundane rules and regulations.
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AlanFromWichita
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Lisa N:
Alan
Has there ever been any authoritative statistical correlation between the days Clinton attacked other countries, aspirin factories and the like, and the days there was to be front page news on the sex/obstruction scandal? Statistics can be used to indict a company of discrimination, but I’m sure it works differently with presidents.
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AlanFromWichita
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I don’t remember where I first heard it, but I found a compilation of Democrats, including presidents Bill and Hillary, saying the same sort of stuff on snopes.
Sen John F. Kerry:
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liam1230
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Actually, a much better resource than snopes.com is this:
factcheck.org/
If you all recall, Dick Cheney quoted this site in the VP debate.
Both sides seem to share equally in lies and/or distortions.
factcheck.org/
If you all recall, Dick Cheney quoted this site in the VP debate.
Both sides seem to share equally in lies and/or distortions.
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AlanFromWichita
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What makes factcheck.com better than snopes? Is it more independent?
They may have shared equally, but how come throughout the campaign we never heard any major media attention focused on the fact that Kerry and Clinton were pushing this war? If Bush hadn’t gone in, I have no doubt they’d have creamed him for that. The only thing that really got out was that unfortunate situation with the swift boat dudes – and the media tried its best to ignore them until it was way too late.
Bush single-handedly led us into an illegal war, indeed! Even on factcheck.com, where they are bashing a Bush ad, they confirm that Kerry gave unwavering support to the war.
The fact that the democrats and media have whipped up the populace into a frenzy over an “illegal war” based on information that everybody agreed to has done incredible damage to the country. At least if we’re going to hate the president, let’s hate him for something that actually happened.
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liam1230
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It’s more comprehensive and only focuses on the political landscape.
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walstan
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Umm… Seems to me like all the stitchings’ beginning to unravel!!
O what a tangled web we weave when first we set out to deceive,
Sir Walter Scott.
O what a tangled web we weave when first we set out to deceive,
Sir Walter Scott.
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BLB_Oregon
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Lisa N:
Two things lead Congress by the nose: Money and the winds of public opinion.
That they can’t respond more to either facts or the demands of justice and common sense is a source of discouragement to more than a few in public office. Considering the concupiscence of the electorate, I believe it is by the work of God that they get any good done at all, and don’t do more harm than they already do.
My suspicion is that there are few presidents, Clinton included, who have not hidden many things they don’t want the voters to know about, some worse than the ones he was caught in. But that is just me. I am convinced that, had you changed Mr. Clinton’s rhetoric and put him in office as a Republican, he’d have had “Tyson” hung on his neck, rather than his personal lapses in character. There are people out there with advertising to sell and their own agendas to promote… you have to send up flags that your target audience will salute.
Ah, well. Democracy sometimes stinks, but it beats all the alternatives! You can’t have a government better than the people being governed are willing to be.
Bing! Bing! Bing! Give that lady a prize!!!
Two things lead Congress by the nose: Money and the winds of public opinion.
That they can’t respond more to either facts or the demands of justice and common sense is a source of discouragement to more than a few in public office. Considering the concupiscence of the electorate, I believe it is by the work of God that they get any good done at all, and don’t do more harm than they already do.
My suspicion is that there are few presidents, Clinton included, who have not hidden many things they don’t want the voters to know about, some worse than the ones he was caught in. But that is just me. I am convinced that, had you changed Mr. Clinton’s rhetoric and put him in office as a Republican, he’d have had “Tyson” hung on his neck, rather than his personal lapses in character. There are people out there with advertising to sell and their own agendas to promote… you have to send up flags that your target audience will salute.
Ah, well. Democracy sometimes stinks, but it beats all the alternatives! You can’t have a government better than the people being governed are willing to be.
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Karin
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You hit it right on the head, BRAVO!!! :clapping: :clapping:
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Karin
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This seemed like such a promising thread…what happened??
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jlw
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When one calls on us to impeach the president, it kinda falls apart.
Disagree with him, certainly. But don’t use Deaniac rhetoric.
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