The Immaculate Conception is on a Monday this year

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**Hello 😉

Need some help, I know this varies from diocese to diocese but maybe you all can help me!

The Immaculate Conception falls on a Monday this year. I was wondering if it is going to be a holy day of obligation or not. I guess it does depend on what diocese you are in. Even if it is not a holy day of obligation in our area we would still attend Mass. However we are planning on being in Mexico (Cancun) that week and will have 4 kids w/ us. We will have to rent a car to go into town on SUnday for Mass and would have to again on Monday as well. You are probably saying to yourself, ‘well if you can afford to go to Mexico, then you should be able to afford a rental car 2 times!’ and yes, you are right in saying that. However w/ 4 little ones it is rather hard to imagine going into the city of Cancun 2 days in a row and not to mention the crime that goes on in that area against tourists, kwim?

So basically my question is this. If our diocese where we live says it is not a holy day of obligation but in Mexico let’s just pretend that it is, what rule do we follow?

Thanks in advance for your help!! 👍 **
 
First of all, in the United States the Immaculate Conception retains the obligation to attend Mass even if it falls on a Saturday or Monday because she is the national patroness. (The local bishops can dispense the obligation.) I don’t know the rules in Mexico.

If making it to Mass is truly unrealistic then there is no obligation to attend.

I take it that you are staying at a location which is outside of town. Are you certain there will be no Masses celebrated closer to your location? There might not be on Monday but perhaps there are on Sunday. You could save your car rental and big journey into town for Monday in that case.
 
SMHW said:
First of all, in the United States the Immaculate Conception retains the obligation to attend Mass even if it falls on a Saturday or Monday because she is the national patroness. I don’t know the rules in Mexico.

If making it to Mass is truly unrealistic then there is no obligation to attend.

I take it that you are staying at a location which is outside of town. Do you certain there will be no Masses celebrated closer to your location? There might not be on Monday but perhaps there are on Sunday. You could save your car rental and big journey into town for Monday in that case.
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I do not believe that the obligation stands for Mexico because Our Lady of Guadalupe, whose feast is celebrated on December 12th, is Mexico’s patroness and the celebration there is a Holy Day of Obligation.
 
benedictgal said:
I do not believe that the obligation stands for Mexico because Our Lady of Guadalupe, whose feast is celebrated on December 12th, is Mexico’s patroness and the celebration there is a Holy Day of Obligation.
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That was my first though but I don’t have time to research it right now.
 
Why don’t you just discuss the matter with your pastor? He would have the authority to dispense you from the Obligation should it exist in your diocese this year.
 
mamacita said:
Hello 😉

**Need some help, I know this varies from diocese to diocese but maybe you all can help me! **

The Immaculate Conception falls on a Monday this year. I was wondering if it is going to be a holy day of obligation or not. I guess it does depend on what diocese you are in. Even if it is not a holy day of obligation in our area we would still attend Mass. However we are planning on being in Mexico (Cancun) that week and will have 4 kids w/ us. We will have to rent a car to go into town on SUnday for Mass and would have to again on Monday as well. You are probably saying to yourself, ‘well if you can afford to go to Mexico, then you should be able to afford a rental car 2 times!’ and yes, you are right in saying that. However w/ 4 little ones it is rather hard to imagine going into the city of Cancun 2 days in a row and not to mention the crime that goes on in that area against tourists, kwim?

So basically my question is this. If our diocese where we live says it is not a holy day of obligation but in Mexico let’s just pretend that it is, what rule do we follow?

**Thanks in advance for your help!! 👍 **
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Yes, it is a HDO.
 
**Thanks for all your help. 👍 Not sure if we are still going to go to Cancun or not. Would love to but not sure if we should swing it or not. :o **
 
mamacita said:
**Hello 😉

Need some help, I know this varies from diocese to diocese but maybe you all can help me!

The Immaculate Conception falls on a Monday this year. I was wondering if it is going to be a holy day of obligation or not. I guess it does depend on what diocese you are in. Even if it is not a holy day of obligation in our area we would still attend Mass. However we are planning on being in Mexico (Cancun) that week and will have 4 kids w/ us. We will have to rent a car to go into town on SUnday for Mass and would have to again on Monday as well. You are probably saying to yourself, ‘well if you can afford to go to Mexico, then you should be able to afford a rental car 2 times!’ and yes, you are right in saying that. However w/ 4 little ones it is rather hard to imagine going into the city of Cancun 2 days in a row and not to mention the crime that goes on in that area against tourists, kwim?

So basically my question is this. If our diocese where we live says it is not a holy day of obligation but in Mexico let’s just pretend that it is, what rule do we follow?

Thanks in advance for your help!! 👍 **
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See Canon 13.2.2. Travellers are not bound by the laws of the place where they are visiting. Since your own diocese (or bishops conference) exempts you from a Holy Day of Obligation (by virtue of the universal law in canon 1246.2), you are not bound to observe it when you travel to Mexico (even if the law in Mexico, requires it for its own residents).

A direct answer to your question: you are not obligated to attend Mass on that day, in the specific circumstances you’ve asked about.

[On the other hand, canon 12.2 says that if the universal law is exempt for the place you are visiting, then that exemption would be granted to you as well–but that wasn’t your original question.]
 
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