The importance of virginity/maiden/chastity?

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Three cheers for your post, Tis_Bearself.

I agree with every word. It seems to me that raising a family means a person is almost forced to become more patient, more self-forgetting, whereas some of the Religious I have met…
 
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That would pretty much ensure that good Catholics die off in the next generation or two.
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It’s a good that’s not what I’m advocating for, then.

Why are you speaking sarcastically about a Church Teaching? We aren’t just free to reject this; this was infallibly defined at the Council of Trent, and taught by St. Paul. It’s not merely a theological opinion.
 
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Don’t worry

From what I see marriage is still held in high esteem in all Christian denominations.

In fact if you are not married you are regarded with suspicion at best and contempt at worst.

This is my experience and I am sure my experience is not unique.

Celibacy for the sake of the kingdom is viewed with suspicion. In fact celibacy is often blamed for the sex scandals in the Church.
 
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Sarcelle said:
Celibacy for the sake of the kingdom is viewed with suspicion. In fact celibacy is often blamed for the sex scandals in the Church.
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The problem with this is, it’s going against the long-standing teaching of the Church as shown by the previous posts in this thread.

I’m wondering how the Church is going to handle this going forward, especially if it decides to ordain a lot of married priests (as opposed to the current limited situation of exceptions for certain priests who convert from other faiths and for getting priests to serve in the Amazon).
 
(Just my two cents- and I feel kinda silly throwing it in here, since I’m not Catholic 😅)

As a single, celibate gal who’s decided to…wait, until marriage (Um, though I really don’t feel a particular draw to BE married) -

I hafta say that some of the married folks I know are some of the holiest people I’ve ever met! ❤️ They sacrifice so much of their time for their children, spouses. Their homes are so loving and you can just Feel the joy as soon as ya walk in! ☺️ They are patient, kind, and even when the kids are hollering like tribal warriors, they are cool as cucumbers.

(Of course, they’re probably just happy 'cause they know I’m there to babysit, for a few hours LOL- but still- ya get my meaning)

-Because of this, well, shoot. I’d say that married folks are holier/more sanctified in a lot of ways- there’s a kind of selflessness to their life. I am inspired and amazed by these people.

But, uh, does there really hafta be a sliding scale of holiness and stuff?

(No disrespect intented towards my fellow single folk, either! 😊 I just wanted to throw my love and respect out there for all my married folks, who are awesome, too!)
 
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I also met some bad parents. Religious also have to be patient since they live in a community.
 
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Jesus was born from a virgin because she could not have sex with a human man if she was going to be pregnant with God’s child. To do so would have called Jesus’ patrimony into question prior to his birth, and been disrespectful to God after his birth.

Jesus did not choose to be born from a virgin because virgins generally are somehow better in God’s sight than non-virgins.
 
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VanitasVanitatum said:
I also met some bad parents. Religious also have to be patient since they live in a community.
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Yes, they do. But the difference is, Religious can walk away to some extent - to their own room, to the chapel, whatever.

Whereas a parent can’t do that when there’s a toddler or two involved, especially if the child is vomiting in the night.
 
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Whereas a parent can’t do that when there’s a toddler or two involved, especially if the child is vomiting in the night.
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Religious have other hardships to deal with.
 
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She was married and they even called him the son of Joseph, so that may not be the case.
 
You are deliberately missing my point. Of course there are always unbelievers who will call him the son of Joseph or the son of even worse (a Roman soldier, the devil, etc)

The point is that we believe he was the son of God, and for the reasons I listed, his mother had to be a virgin. It was NOT because sex or losing your virginity in a Catholic marriage is somehow unholy.

This is my last post on the subject, as it’s not up for argument in my mind. Have a nice day.
 
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I never understood the problem with this teaching.

There are 9 choirs of Angels. Do the Angels cry that they are not Seraphim? Or do they humbly accept their state & do the will of the Father?
 
Sarcelle said:
In fact if you are not married you are regarded with suspicion at best and contempt at worst.
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Even in the Secular world, if you’re not in a relationship you’re viewed with suspicion and take a lot of ridicule.
 
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That must be really nice. People in my area are incredibly nosy when it comes to such stuff.
 
Cruciferi said:
That must be really nice. People in my area are incredibly nosy when it comes to such stuff.
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Yes it is. The only person who really asked was my grandmother. The rest of my family seem to know better. I suppose it helps that I have single cousins on both sides.
 
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