The Impossibility Of Absolutely-Nothing And the Necessity Of A Fundamental Unchanging Act Of Reality

[itsjustme]

but it doesn’t follow that God has to create the universe. The universe is not essential to the act of existence.

So you agree that Christ’s physical manifestation wasn’t metaphysically necessary, even if it was always going to happen?

The incarnation was always going to happen, but it doesn’t follow that the word of God has to become flesh in-order to be an essential member of the trinity.

If we eliminate Christ’s physical manifestation as being metaphysically necessary, then it would seem that all that we’re left with is Christ’s nature as "The Word" as to the sense in which Christ is metaphysically necessary.

It’s “The Word” that’s metaphysically necessary, but what is “The Word”, and in what sense is it metaphysically necessary?

 

[IWantGod]

So you agree that Christ’s physical manifestation wasn’t metaphysically necessary, even if it was always going to happen?

The incarnation isn’t something required in-order for there to be three members of the trinity. Jesus has a divine nature and therefore his divine nature is metaphysically necessary whether there is an incarnation or not…

It is my understanding that the incarnation is not necessary, but it was always going to happen.

But don’t quote me on that. Theology is not my strong suit. I am just arguing what follows logically.

 

[itsjustme]

The incarnation isn’t something required in-order for there to be three members of the trinity. Jesus has a divine nature and therefore his divine nature is metaphysically necessary whether there is an incarnation or not…

Well sure it’s easy enough to say that Christ has a divine nature and therefore His existence is metaphysically necessary, but what does that mean?

If absent His physical manifestation Christ is simply “The Word”, then what is “The Word” and why is it metaphysically necessary?

For example, if by “The Word” one is referring to God’s commandments, then isn’t it possible for those commandments not to exist, and therefore they’re not metaphysically necessary?

 

[IWantGod]

Well sure it’s easy enough to say that Christ has a divine nature and therefore His existence is metaphysically necessary, but what does that mean?

It means that it would be meaningless to say that he has a divine nature if he were not God incarnate.

1. God is necessary
2. Jesus Christ has both the nature of God and a human nature.

Conclusion: it follows necessarily that Jesus Christ has an eternal necessary nature.

 

[Neithan]

If absent His physical manifestation Christ is simply “ The Word ”, then what is “ The Word ” and why is it metaphysically necessary?

I don’t think we can logically arrive at that conclusion. It’s a revelation that the Divine Nature is shared (consubstantial) by a Trinity of Divine Persons. It’s not reasoned knowledge.