The Jesus is a Myth, Myth

[lax16]

Let’s say that there is a temple to Buddha somewhere in southwestern Asia and it is dedicated to him. Is that enough proof do you think for a professional historian to say conclusively that the Buddha was a real historical person?

There is obviously a worldwide religion called Buddhism, based on the teachings of someone called the Buddha, and he may or may not have been a real person. It makes sense to me to believe he was a real man, but that is not the same as saying there is evidence that he was real, in the same way we know that Julius Caesar or Benjamin Franklin was a real person.

No, however it would lead one to research whether it was so. If there were writings containing accounts where numerous people claim to have met, spoke with and learned from this individual creating a whole new philosophy about life, then either numerous people are lying or hallucinating or the person actually existed.

If someone claims to have had a vision, such as Joseph Smith, then eyewitness accounts and writings are equally important. They either validate or invalidate the claim that the person is a credible individual.

 

[Thorolfr]

If someone claims to have had a vision, such as Joseph Smith, then eyewitness accounts and writings are equally important. They either validate or invalidate the claim that the person is a credible individual.

Witnesses are important. That’s why we know that Joseph Smith really had those golden plates since 8 witnesses said they both saw and handled them.

 

[Kaninchen]

Well, if it gets tiring talking about Jesus you might want to avoid visiting threads about him.

I responded to a particular piece of text.

Why have you ignored my other questions?

Why did you ask them?

 

[lax16]

Witnesses are important. That’s why we know that Joseph Smith really had those golden plates since 8 witnesses said they both saw and handled them.

Actually, no. Due to the fact that the witnesses were inconsistent in their accounts and most eventually rejected JS and Mormonism would help solidify the argument that JS did not have the golden plates.

Eyewitness accounts and newspaper articles written about the character of JS would also shed doubt on his telling the truth.

We know that JS existed, however, correct?

 

[lax16]

I responded to a particular piece of text.

…on a thread titled *The Jesus is a Myth, Myth *on Catholic Answers Forums.

Why did you ask them?

Because you said “the Christian Jesus may be a long, long way from the original”.

I asked for clarification.

 

[Kaninchen]

I asked for clarification.

What do you mean by clarification?

 

[lax16]

What do you mean by clarification?

To clarify, explain, what you meant by your post. In this case, the comment that “Christian Jesus may be a long, long way from original”.

What do you mean by that statement?

 

[Kaninchen]

To clarify, explain, what you meant by your post. In this case, the comment that “Christian Jesus may be a long, long way from original”.

Which words did you find confusing?

 

[lax16]

Which words did you find confusing?

I understand the words. It’s the meaning of your statement that I am asking about.

 

[Kaninchen]

I understand the words. It’s the meaning of your statement that I am asking about.

Perhaps you might outline what you think I might mean by such a statement?

 

[lax16]

Perhaps you might outline what you think I might mean by such a statement?

I would not attempt to put meaning to someone else’s comments.

 

[Kaninchen]

I would not attempt to put meaning to someone else’s comments.

Asking questions is a lot easier as well.

 

[lax16]

Asking questions is a lot easier as well.

Do you think that by discussing the idea of Jesus in any way that is not negative makes you less Jewish?

 

[MrEmpiricism]

Can science prove that anyone has existed? Other than those who have left DNA evidence, of course.

I am not sure, but science certainly does not prove that Jesus existed.

 

[lax16]

I am not sure, but science certainly does not prove that Jesus existed.

Nor anyone else apparently. Perhaps science is not all it is cracked up to be.

 

[Kaninchen]

Do you think that by discussing the idea of Jesus

What do you mean by the ‘idea of Jesus’?

in any way that is not negative makes you less Jewish?

Explain ‘in any way’.

 

[MrEmpiricism]

Nor anyone else apparently. Perhaps science is not all it is cracked up to be.

Only if one sets such a low bar

 

[lax16]

Only if one sets such a low bar

I set the bar high in all aspects of my life.

However, if someone thinks science has all the answers, they are obviously mistaken.

Do you ever read or study the writings of people that are deceased?

 

[lax16]

What do you mean by the ‘idea of Jesus’?

Explain ‘in any way’.

Thanks for the answer, Kaninchen.

 

[MrEmpiricism]

I set the bar high in all aspects of my life.

However, if someone thinks science has all the answers, they are obviously mistaken.

Do you ever read or study the writings of people that are deceased?

Sometimes, when it comes to understanding he cosmos, science is he only method that provides meaningful answers.