The Kangaroo should be the symbol for Pro-Life

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The reason why I had this idea is because Kangaroos give birth while their young are still in an embryo state of development.

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Red Kangaroo: Embryo Outside the Womb?
Some day this little guy or girl will be about as tall as a man. But for now the weeks-old red kangaroo joey is roughly cherry-size, essentially an embryo outside the womb…Even at this early stage, the red kangaroo’s forearms are fully functional, its inner ear can tell up from down, and its sensitive nose makes up for unseeing eyes–the better to find and latch on to the tiny teat that will nourish the kangaroo almost continuously for six months, according to the documentary.
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That is so neat! Isn’t it a shame that animals have more protection and rights than the unborn.
 
That is so neat! Isn’t it a shame that animals have more protection and rights than the unborn.
I wonder how the animal rights activists would react to it if the Kangaroo became the symbol for Pro-Life. 🙂
 
I wonder how the animal rights activists would react to it if the Kangaroo became the symbol for Pro-Life. 🙂
In Australia, the animal rights guys would love it because kangaroos are considered pests to farmers and are subject to culling. They are a lovely creature… to look at pictures of … but could rip you to ribbons in an eye blink if you tick them off! 🙂

But I know what you mean. It gives new perspective to a child in embryo.
 
In Australia, the animal rights guys would love it because kangaroos are considered pests to farmers and are subject to culling. They are a lovely creature… to look at pictures of … but could rip you to ribbons in an eye blink if you tick them off! 🙂

But I know what you mean. It gives new perspective to a child in embryo.
This - having had a beloved farm dogs horribly (and in one case fatally) mauled by roos, and seen cars damaged in hits and near misses involving exceedingly stupid kangaroos, I am anything but sentimentally attached to the blighters.
 
This - having had a beloved farm dogs horribly (and in one case fatally) mauled by roos, and seen cars damaged in hits and near misses involving exceedingly stupid kangaroos, I am anything but sentimentally attached to the blighters.
I’m sure that a Kangaroo like a lot of other wild animals can be potentially dangerous, and I wouldn’t recommend going near any wild animal. But a lot of dangerous animals are used as symbols such as lions, tigers, bears, elephants, etc. 🙂
 
I’m sure that a Kangaroo like a lot of other wild animals can be potentially dangerous, and I wouldn’t recommend going near any wild animal. But a lot of dangerous animals are used as symbols such as lions, tigers, bears, elephants, etc. 🙂
What are they used as symbols of, though? Worldly power and pride? Brute physical strength (a la sports teams). Heck, in Australia some of our sporting teams are already denoted as kangaroos or just 'roos. Probably for that reason.
 
What are they used as symbols of, though? Worldly power and pride? Brute physical strength (a la sports teams). Heck, in Australia some of our sporting teams are already denoted as kangaroos or just 'roos. Probably for that reason.
Even a tamed horse can be potentially dangerous. Almost any animal has that potential. But I don’t see why you are so against Kangaroos unless you just don’t like animals. 🙂
 
Even a tamed horse can be potentially dangerous. Almost any animal has that potential. But I don’t see why you are so against Kangaroos unless you just don’t like animals. 🙂
Sometimes I think you just enjoy being contrary! I love kangaroos (at a distance) but they’re definitely a problem on country roads and pointing that out isn’t being ‘against’ them.

Their numbers are increasing all the time and it’s rare to drive in the country without seeing a dead roo on the side of the road. In times of drought it’s not uncommon to see a dead (hit by car) one every couple of hundred metres or so as they move around more looking for water. Some of those dead ones will have been a female with a joey in its pouch. Some people stop and check and if there’s a joey you then have the problem of transporting it to the wildlife rescue people without getting kicked and scratched.

They’re the cause a lot of accidents and there isn’t much you can do other than hope for the best when you see one. Sometimes you don’t even see the kangaroo until it jumps into you. They’re not like other wild animals which at least have their legs on the ground most of the time.
 
I always thought that the tadpole was a good example/analogy.

The life of a frog begins with the fertilisation of an egg. Is anyone arguing that a tadpole is not a living being?
 
Even a tamed horse can be potentially dangerous. Almost any animal has that potential. But I don’t see why you are so against Kangaroos unless you just don’t like animals. 🙂
I love and respect all animals, but there is a reason why, for example, charities to do with animals tend to use generally cute and cuddly critters such as dogs, cats, pandas and chimps in their promotions rather than, say, species of venomous snake or piranha or mosquito which for all we know may be equally endangered or in need.

In regards kangaroos, I saw one do real and vicious damage to a dog which I dearly loved who got in a fight with it. The poor dog suffered greatly before it died of its injuries as I was unable to help it 😦

I don’t by any means dislike animals, not even kangaroos, but I do hate the damage and trouble they can cause. And kangaroos do cause a disproportionate amount of damage and trouble.
 
Even a tamed horse can be potentially dangerous. Almost any animal has that potential. But I don’t see why you are so against Kangaroos unless you just don’t like animals. 🙂
That seems like a weird thing to say?? Kangaroos are striking, unusual, majestic, regal… but perhaps non-Aussies/non-kiwis, are oblivious to their deadly side and might envision a more cuddly, sweet maternal image.

I know what you’re saying about the life of the kangaroo embryo having an interesting story for pro-life defenses, but a symbol for pro-life is probably best portrayed by the unborn human baby since it’s humans that are made in the image of God and deserve that special dignity.
 
That seems like a weird thing to say?? Kangaroos are striking, unusual, majestic, regal… but perhaps non-Aussies/non-kiwis, are oblivious to their deadly side and might envision a more cuddly, sweet maternal image.

I know what you’re saying about the life of the kangaroo embryo having an interesting story for pro-life defenses, but a symbol for pro-life is probably best portrayed by the unborn human baby since it’s humans that are made in the image of God and deserve that special dignity.
Well, deadly or not, the Kangaroo symbol would still make a good logo for a Pro-Life bumper sticker. I hope this idea catches on. 🙂
 
Even a tamed horse can be potentially dangerous. Almost any animal has that potential. But I don’t see why you are so against Kangaroos unless you just don’t like animals. 🙂
Any animal, when cornered, chased, or growled at is likely to react with fear and protectiveness of their safety, and therefore likely to attack…as are many dogs themselves…you are correct.

Regarding vehicle accidents, when I was in the U.S the road signs warned of crossing deer and in places, bears…it is difficult for any native or wild animals to cope with fast moving, and often unexpected traffic, especially if the animal travels fast itself.
Certainly the animals roamed free long before the relative recent introduction of motor vehicles. When travelling, we usually keep a lookout for fast-moving kangaroos especially at dusk, but in hundreds of thousands of miles along the north to south east coast of Australia have never hit a kangaroo or emu or any native animal, nor had a near miss.

Kangaroos routinely gave nightly visits for years to my youngest son’s property, and the three Australian cattle dogs, Kelpies, never received any injury of any kind. You’d hear the kangaroos hop past the house at night.

The only inconvenience ever suffered by us or the dogs was that though 2 of the Keplies were pureblood dogs, one was a Kelpie cross, and after a bath, her eau de cologne was a roll in neat pebbles of kangaroo droppings by the dam where the roos came for their water. She’d return very proudly to the house looking somewhat green of coat.

The only time any came to grief was when all three dogs were barking at a koala who had been foolish enough to cross the paddock with three dogs nearby. Lizzie, the Kelpie cross, who liked cats as pets and when young, tried to round up flies, tried to round up the koala, who then chased her and gave her a little scratch on the nose…to our amusement I fear to say.

P.S. *Lily, I’m really sorry about your dogs. I know how much my sons’ dogs mean to them, and their dogs always welcome our visits with joy, and I can only imagine how distressing to have one of your dogs killed, and another badly injured. It certainly would colour your image of the culprits. Dogs give a lot to their owners, and do win a place in the heart.

That beautiful pictured classic black and tan Kelpie of my son’s is now minus one back leg, thanks to a road accident as she sought the current location of her master. We all felt her injury keenly…so I can understand a little of the distress you have endured.*

All that aside, yes the Kangaroos treatment and protection of embryonic offspring do make her a good symbol for pro-life.
 
Any animal, when cornered, chased, or growled at is likely to react with fear and protectiveness of their safety, and therefore likely to attack…as are many dogs themselves…you are correct.

Regarding vehicle accidents, when I was in the U.S the road signs warned of crossing deer and in places, bears…it is difficult for any native or wild animals to cope with fast moving, and often unexpected traffic, especially if the animal travels fast itself.
Certainly the animals roamed free long before the relative recent introduction of motor vehicles. When travelling, we usually keep a lookout for fast-moving kangaroos especially at dusk, but in hundreds of thousands of miles along the north to south east coast of Australia have never hit a kangaroo or emu or any native animal, nor had a near miss.

Kangaroos routinely gave nightly visits for years to my youngest son’s property, and the three Australian cattle dogs, Kelpies, never received any injury of any kind. You’d hear the kangaroos hop past the house at night.

The only inconvenience ever suffered by us or the dogs was that though 2 of the Keplies were pureblood dogs, one was a Kelpie cross, and after a bath, her eau de cologne was a roll in neat pebbles of kangaroo droppings by the dam where the roos came for their water. She’d return very proudly to the house looking somewhat green of coat.

The only time any came to grief was when all three dogs were barking at a koala who had been foolish enough to cross the paddock with three dogs nearby. Lizzie, the Kelpie cross, who liked cats as pets and when young, tried to round up flies, tried to round up the koala, who then chased her and gave her a little scratch on the nose…to our amusement I fear to say.

P.S. *Lily, I’m really sorry about your dogs. I know how much my sons’ dogs mean to them, and their dogs always welcome our visits with joy, and I can only imagine how distressing to have one of your dogs killed, and another badly injured. It certainly would colour your image of the culprits. Dogs give a lot to their owners, and do win a place in the heart.

That beautiful pictured classic black and tan Kelpie of my son’s is now minus one back leg, thanks to a road accident as she sought the current location of her master. We all felt her injury keenly…so I can understand a little of the distress you have endured.*

All that aside, yes the Kangaroos treatment and protection of embryonic offspring do make her a good symbol for pro-life.
Thanks.
 
… if someone is a marsupial, sure, that makes perfect sense.
 
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