The Kindness And Cruelty Of Artificial Insemination With A Donor

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Hello, I wanted to ask you fellows about artificial insemination with a donor’s cells.

Is it cruel to deny a woman her own child when the husband is infertile?

Is it cruel to compel a man to allow his wife to have another man’s children?

How can you be kind to all equally?

According to the Biblical pattern, should we be kind to the man first?

What about compelling the husband to believe and ask for divine healing?

What do you write to someone who writes that a donor’s seed is God’s providence for the infertile man?

What if the husband or wife wants a divorce because of the situation?

What if the wife accepts a donor’s cells without her husband’s consent and he wants a divorce?

Is the last action of the wife, acting to fall pregnant from donor without her husband’s consent, adulterous? Or even with his consent?
 
According to Catholic teaching, we must be kind to the child first, and allow him or her to be conceived within the marital embrace.

It seems like as soon as we can do something, we think we no longer have to accept the alternative. But before we had IVF, AI, and all that, people had to accept their child-less state and had only the choice of adoption. Did we think back then that the situation was “cruel?” No, it was just a part of life.

Now that we have “solutions,” which I put into quotation marks because they are not moral, we think it is cruel to deny people what they want, despite the fact that they must use immoral means to get what they want. That is not thinking with the mind of Christ.
 
Logan5 said:
Hello, I wanted to ask you fellows about artificial insemination with a donor’s cells.

Is it cruel to deny a woman her own child when the husband is infertile?
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Gah.

Children are a gift; not a right. The language “her own child” as if she owns or has a right to a child betrays a complete misunderstanding of sexuality and human life.

For this reason I recommend beginning at the very basics, with John Paul II’s Theology of the Body.

(If you want an answer without bothering to learn why: The correct response is adoption with the husband, given the circumstances are proper for the child’s upbringing.)
 
I agree with the Church’s teaching but my heart goes out to those who are infertile.
 
ALL children are gifts from God. It does not matter how they are conceived.
 
I don’t understand how all children are gifts from God. I consider them worth a lot and as fragile… and respect their rights. My OP is about the infertile man and his longing wife, in faith, and matters of trying to have a child.
 
AnimalGal said:
It does not matter how they are conceived.
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You must be careful with such a statement. It does matter how they are conceived: in vitro fertilization, “sperm banks” etc. are grave injustices to the child and are thus morally unacceptable.

What I hope you mean to say is that the child has the same human dignity and is made in the image and likeness of God, regardless of the method of conception.
 
The Church unequivocally condemns artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization for the very same reason that it condemns artificial birth control: Both practices sever the procreative from the unitive. Not only that, they turn children into paid-for products.
 
ethereality said:
You must be careful with such a statement. It does matter how they are conceived: in vitro fertilization, “sperm banks” etc. are grave injustices to the child and are thus morally unacceptable.

What I hope you mean to say is that the child has the same human dignity and is made in the image and likeness of God, regardless of the method of conception.
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I simply disagree with you

It does not matter how they got here. ALL children are gifts from God. Look around you in church and then explain to me why the method of conception matters to you. The end result is life.
 
Yes, I like these ideas about respecting human dignity. I can’t see how ethereality and animalgal contradict. Is there a difference between “life” and “full human dignity”.

Also “life” is less clear, I mean we should cherish life, but sheep are life too.

Obviously what you meant were “equals” and this before the Lord Jesus, on His cross and from His place in Heaven and near us…Not more, not less.

And the US constitution as worded by religious men. “all men are equal.”

I wanted to see this as a matter of honour, in part.

Moses said:
Deu 23:1 An eunuch, whose testicles are broken or cut away, or yard cut off, shall not enter into the church of the Lord.
Deu 23:2 A mamzer, that is to say, one born of a prostitute, shall not enter into the church of the Lord, until the tenth generation.
Deu 23:3 The Ammonite and the Moabite, even after the tenth generation shall not enter into the church of the Lord for ever:
Deu 23:4 Because they would not meet you with bread and water in the way, when you came out of Egypt: and because they hired against thee Balaam, the son of Beor, from Mesopotamia in Syria, to curse thee.
Deu 23:5 And the Lord thy God would not hear Balaam, and he turned his cursing into thy blessing, because he loved thee.
Deu 23:6 Thou shalt not make peace with them, neither shalt thou seek their prosperity all the days of thy life for ever.
Deu 23:7 Thou shalt not abhor the Edomite, because he is thy brother: nor the Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land.
Deu 23:8 They that are born of them, in the third generation shall enter into the church of the Lord.
Deu 23:9 When thou goest out to war against thy enemies, thou shalt keep thyself from every evil.
DRB
 
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