The Knowledge cannot be created

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The fallacy has been shown already.
You simply refuse to see it.
Which post?
Your definition of knowledge is wrong.
That is not correct. Simply consider 1+1=2. This is simple fact which cannot be created. It simply a universal fact which apply to everything.
You can Google the definition yourself.
Google doesn’t necessary provide a good definition considering the subject matter.
 
1+1=2 is fact, not knowledge.

That I know 1+1=2 is knowledge.

As pointed out to you many times. That you refuse the reality of the facts is silly.
 
Facts and knowledge are not the same thing. The earth orbits the sun. That is a fact, whether or not it is known. It was a fact long before anybody existed to know it.

You can know facts; you can know processes; you can know people and places.

Knowledge is learned. So in that sense it is created. At one point nobody knew how aerofoils worked. Then people learned, through observation, trial and error, and application. That knowledge, which once didn’t exist, now exists. It was created.
I like a number of things about the above contribution to this thread.

I wonder about the idea of knowing a person. I suspect that it depends upon the English language. That combination of words might be ambiguous or incoherent in another language.

I would distinguish between know-how that allows you to engage in dialogue or fact-checking, and a capacity to emit sounds in a monologue.

If knowing a poem is tested by your ability to recite it, then it is possible that you do not even know the language in which the poem is written, that you have never read a translation, and that you have learned to imitate a sound recording that you own and have listened to repeatedly, perhaps with help from a native speaker to correct subtle problems that make your speech sound foreign, artificial, or too much like a particular speaker who is known for having recited that poem.
DeWolf Hopper was the first person to give a stage recitation of the poem Casey at the Bat, on August 14, 1888, at New York’s Wallack Theatre. Hopper became known as an orator of the poem, and recited it more than 10,000 times (by his count—- some tabulations are as much as four times greater) before his death.
Link:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_at_the_Bat#Live_performances

It is interesting that the subject known as “English” in elementary school, high school, and college is often used not merely to teach dramatic arts, but also to demand performance of a particular script in front of a live audience. The Beatles in the recording studio could have failed that test, even though they composed the score or script that is to be performed!

I imagine that many teachers would forbid a student who has a talent for imitating the voices of particular individuals from imitating the sound of the teacher’s voice. Maybe this is a way to provoke reform in the classroom, rather then merely reform of some theoretical rules, policies, laws, etc. After class, all students could work together to learn to imitate the sound of the teacher’s voice, as a reaction whenever they are required to utter a sequence of sounds that was already uttered by the teacher.
 
I did say that 1+1=2 is a fact.

You are incorrect. Knowledge in this case is Algebra.

I don’t understand what you are talking about.
Of course.
This was expected. I have new knowledge now.
This new knowledge you helped to create.
And it tells me that you do not want to learn anything.
Your claims to wishing to learn and argue logic to find answers are really a ruse to further your own desire to spew ignorance.
It is apparent that you only wish to recite falsehood to others and claim for yourself a false mantle of wisdom as others fail to understand what you are talking about.

You can get your shine on somewhere else.
I am done.
 
Originally Posted by vz71:
That I know 1+1=2 is knowledge.
You are incorrect. Knowledge in this case is Algebra.
Where is your knowledge: in your mind or on this message board? If it is on the message board, then you can simply copy and paste some page from a textbook that you do not understand. Once it is on the message board, do you magically acquire understanding of it? How can it be your knowledge if you neither understand it nor remember it?

I have to wonder about the claim that 1+1=2 is algebra.

Ancient Greeks used deductive logic to reach the conclusion that no rational number can be squared to get the number two. They invented the sieve of eratosthenes to enumerate prime numbers. Obviously they also knew basic facts of arithmetic that were used daily by merchants of Sumeria, Babylonia, Ancient Egypt, etc.

However, the Ancient Greeks did not have a symbol for zero, and they did not use variables to represent lengths. They constructed a diagram, and put a label on a particular line segment, but they did not consider the length of a line segment to be a number. They did not have algebra.
I don’t understand what you are talking about.
When you do not understand, it is a good idea to ask a specific question. Otherwise people have to guess. If they guess wrong, then they are working to help you understand without making any progress.
 
The Reality is deep underneath of what we can ever experience. God cannot possibly create the knowledge since knowledge is needed to create anything included knowledge.
I really don’t understand the problem here. God is omniscient, meaning he knows all things. So in that sense I would agree that knowledge is not created. We have minds with which we can learn and deduce and come to knowledge about things. So what’s the problem?
 
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