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HonoraDominum
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Due to the volumous amount of threads about Mormons and the Mormon religion, I thought it might save some time for those of us who are constantly fighting the fight against the lies of the Mormon church to just put up the end-all-be-all thread and be done with the topic, or at least have something to quick-reference for when the Same Song Second Verse posts appears on these boards.
Typical Thread on Mormonism
Non-LDS person:
There’s probably a topic about any Catholic/Mormon topic that you could think of asking, just do a quick search.
For Catholics/non-Mormons:
Mormons will say that they “prayed about it” and got a “burning of the bosom” and this is how they know that the Book of Mormon is true. Mormons will then ask you pray about it and let you make the choice for yourself.
This is a lie. Do not believe it.
This is the beginning of what is called the “Double Bind”, an argument style that is used frequently by members of the Mormon faith. It goes something like this: In the Book of Mormon, it says to pray to get an answer on its truthfulness. If you get an answer, than it’s true. If you don’t get an answer, well, that’s a problem with you and it’s your fault. It will eventually get to this point: If you believe with out questioning, then you have faith. If you question and begin to have doubts, then you are at fault because you allowed Satan to influence your belief. This will mess with your mind, as any ex-Mormon on this board will attest to. If you allow yourself to be sucked inot the lies, you will end up fighting this battle in your head years after you leave the church. Trust me on this.
Mormons will deny certain historical facts about their religious heritage.
This is a lie. Do not believe it.
The historical facts can easily be found with a Google search about such things as the early leaders of the church being an unapologetic racists, the Masonic origins of the LDS temple ceremonies, and the complete disproval of the Book of Abraham “Translations”.
Long story short, it doesn’t matter what you believe about the Catholic Church, it doesn’t change the fact that the LDS church is based on the lies of Joseph Smith and perpetuated to this day by the leadership of the church.
For Mormons:
You say, read the Book of Mormon, and pray about it and get an answer. I make you this challenge. Walk into any Catholic church. Find the tabernacle (the gold box with a red candle next to it). This is where the Blessed Sacrament resides between Masses. Go to a pew in front of the tabernacle, kneel on the kneeler, and pray. It doesn’t matter what you pray. Just pray.
You will probably not be bowled over by any “burning of the bosom” experience that you may have had as a Mormon. But you might. You might not feel anything at all. You might be very nervous just being around the crucifixes and other foreign religious objects. That’s okay, and normal. But just pray. If you need help to pray, bring your Bible, and read in the Gospels. I highly recommend meditating on Luke 22. Sit there, for 10, 15, 30 minutes, in the peacefulness, and ponder the words of God. Even if you don’t believe that He’s really there in the tabernacle, ponder on His words in your heart as Mary did during her life. Just medidate on who and what God really is, and how He resides in you. Think about being His creations, and His love for you. Spending this time simply keeping God company and letting Him love you will bring you many graces.
And think about how the pain he suffered on the Cross was because He loves you. Because He does. He loves you and wants very much to be united to you in your heart. He wants nothing more to spend Eternity loving you, and for you to be loving Him for eternity. He wants you to strive to do everything you do for love of Him. Can you imagine the freedom, the joy, of living solely for Love? You open that door for love of God, you drive your car for love of God, or as Brother Lawrence famously said, you flip your little omelette in the pan for love of God. Truly loving God is doing for Him what you used to do only for yourself. When you do all for love of God, fear is replaced with peace, anxiety is replaced with confidence, pride is replaced with humility. St. Augustine also said “My heart is restless, Lord, until it rests in Thee.”
I pray every day for members of the LDS church to receive the grace to see God as He really is, not as Joseph Smith made him to be. While I may not always have peace and quiet, I finally have that peace of resting in God. I pray that you can find that peace, and be happy in this life and the next.
Consolatrix afflictorum, Ora pro nobis.
Typical Thread on Mormonism
Non-LDS person:
“Kind” LDS Person:
Ex-Mormon Catholic:
“Kind” LDS Person:
A different Ex-Mormon Catholic:
There’s probably a topic about any Catholic/Mormon topic that you could think of asking, just do a quick search.
For Catholics/non-Mormons:
Mormons will say that they “prayed about it” and got a “burning of the bosom” and this is how they know that the Book of Mormon is true. Mormons will then ask you pray about it and let you make the choice for yourself.
This is a lie. Do not believe it.
This is the beginning of what is called the “Double Bind”, an argument style that is used frequently by members of the Mormon faith. It goes something like this: In the Book of Mormon, it says to pray to get an answer on its truthfulness. If you get an answer, than it’s true. If you don’t get an answer, well, that’s a problem with you and it’s your fault. It will eventually get to this point: If you believe with out questioning, then you have faith. If you question and begin to have doubts, then you are at fault because you allowed Satan to influence your belief. This will mess with your mind, as any ex-Mormon on this board will attest to. If you allow yourself to be sucked inot the lies, you will end up fighting this battle in your head years after you leave the church. Trust me on this.
Mormons will deny certain historical facts about their religious heritage.
This is a lie. Do not believe it.
The historical facts can easily be found with a Google search about such things as the early leaders of the church being an unapologetic racists, the Masonic origins of the LDS temple ceremonies, and the complete disproval of the Book of Abraham “Translations”.
Long story short, it doesn’t matter what you believe about the Catholic Church, it doesn’t change the fact that the LDS church is based on the lies of Joseph Smith and perpetuated to this day by the leadership of the church.
For Mormons:
You say, read the Book of Mormon, and pray about it and get an answer. I make you this challenge. Walk into any Catholic church. Find the tabernacle (the gold box with a red candle next to it). This is where the Blessed Sacrament resides between Masses. Go to a pew in front of the tabernacle, kneel on the kneeler, and pray. It doesn’t matter what you pray. Just pray.
You will probably not be bowled over by any “burning of the bosom” experience that you may have had as a Mormon. But you might. You might not feel anything at all. You might be very nervous just being around the crucifixes and other foreign religious objects. That’s okay, and normal. But just pray. If you need help to pray, bring your Bible, and read in the Gospels. I highly recommend meditating on Luke 22. Sit there, for 10, 15, 30 minutes, in the peacefulness, and ponder the words of God. Even if you don’t believe that He’s really there in the tabernacle, ponder on His words in your heart as Mary did during her life. Just medidate on who and what God really is, and how He resides in you. Think about being His creations, and His love for you. Spending this time simply keeping God company and letting Him love you will bring you many graces.
And think about how the pain he suffered on the Cross was because He loves you. Because He does. He loves you and wants very much to be united to you in your heart. He wants nothing more to spend Eternity loving you, and for you to be loving Him for eternity. He wants you to strive to do everything you do for love of Him. Can you imagine the freedom, the joy, of living solely for Love? You open that door for love of God, you drive your car for love of God, or as Brother Lawrence famously said, you flip your little omelette in the pan for love of God. Truly loving God is doing for Him what you used to do only for yourself. When you do all for love of God, fear is replaced with peace, anxiety is replaced with confidence, pride is replaced with humility. St. Augustine also said “My heart is restless, Lord, until it rests in Thee.”
I pray every day for members of the LDS church to receive the grace to see God as He really is, not as Joseph Smith made him to be. While I may not always have peace and quiet, I finally have that peace of resting in God. I pray that you can find that peace, and be happy in this life and the next.
Consolatrix afflictorum, Ora pro nobis.
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