The Latest Public Statement of the SSPX

[Tomdstone]

If someone doesn’t accept an Ecumenic Council then they simply aren’t Catholic!

How long does someone with that condition have to remain that way until they are excommunicated?

The Orthodox don’t accept many Catholic Ecumenical Councils, and Pope Paul VI lifted the excommunicationthat was in effect since 1054.

 

[Melchior_1]

The Orthodox don’t accept many Catholic Ecumenical Councils, and Pope Paul VI lifted the excommunicationthat was in effect since 1054.

They’re still in schism, and it took 900 years for relations to reach the point where the excommunications were lifted.

I think it’s safe to say that it is not int he best interest of the SSPX to go down the same path as the Orthodox.

 

[Dee_S]

They’re still in schism, and it took 900 years for relations to reach the point where the excommunications were lifted.

I think it’s safe to say that it is not in the best interest of the SSPX to go down the same path as the Orthodox.

:thumbsup:that’s for sure! Fortunately the Pope’s to date have exercised much patience, forgiveness and charity towards the SSPX so that aspect is not comparable.

Very interesting (thanks Tombstone for your post too) to know that this happened as recently as 1965 - (that’s ‘recent’ for the Church, who takes the ‘long’ view of things)

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JOINT*** CATHOLIC-ORTHODOX DECLARATION
OF HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
AND THE ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH ATHENAGORAS I ***
"5. Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I with his synod realize that this gesture of justice and mutual pardon is not sufficient to end both old and more recent differences between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church.

** Through the action of the Holy Spirit those differences will be overcome through cleansing of hearts, through regret for historical wrongs, and through an efficacious determination to arrive at a common understanding and expression of the faith of the Apostles and its demands.**

** They hope, nevertheless, that this act will be pleasing to God, who is prompt to pardon us when we pardon each other. They hope that the whole Christian world, especially the entire Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church will appreciate this gesture as an expression of a sincere desire shared in common for reconciliation, and as an invitation to follow out in a spirit of trust, esteem and mutual charity the dialogue which, with Gods help, will lead to living together again, for the greater good of souls and the coming of the kingdom of God, in that full communion of faith, fraternal accord and sacramental life which existed among them during the first thousand years of the life of the Church."**
vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/speeches/1965/documents/hf_p-vi_spe_19651207_common-declaration_en.html

 

[ProVobis]

The Orthodox don’t accept many Catholic Ecumenical Councils, and Pope Paul VI lifted the excommunicationthat was in effect since 1054.

I think it was also mentioned that the Orthodox removed the excommunication against the Vatican. (It was supposedly two-sided.)

 

[Mike30]

I think it was also mentioned that the Orthodox removed the excommunication against the Vatican. (It was supposedly two-sided.)

Interesting. Was their excommunication considered valid?