The Levitical priesthood (perpetual or not?)

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BartholomewB said:
The priesthood of Melchizedek differs from that of Aaron and the Levites in that is not hereditary.
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I think this is a good start - eg hereditary vs non-hereditary…

I think the difference can be understood more specifically:

Man-appointed vs God-appointed…

And the problems arise when we find God-appointed parish Priests and merely man-appointed Bishops…

The Church educates and appoints young priests called to the priesthood… Of these, some emerge as highly God-directed across time, and these are made Bishops… That is the way it should happen - And we all know that it often does not work out that way…

Yet I still see the parish priest as the Christian form of the Levite, and the Bishop as the Christian form of the Melchizedek Priesthood - For the Priest serves for the Bishop… The Priest serves his Bishop, and his Bishop, matured in the Faith, serves under his Archbishop and Patriarch, but does so directed by God… As all Bishops have this kind of “equality” before God, though not administratively… And all this “ideally”, and occasionally even happening in the persons of the actual offices…

There is a sense in which Christianity is a kind of “legitimate heresy” of the Jewish Temple Faith… We have Christian “correlates” of the Jewish Feasts and it’s Priesthood… The fact that the Levitical Priesthood no longer exists does not rule out that it has its Christian counterpart, which does exist, and may be understood as its eternal extension…

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George720 said:
There is a sense in which Christianity is a kind of “legitimate heresy” of the Jewish Temple Faith… We have Christian “correlates” of the Jewish Feasts and it’s Priesthood… The fact that the Levitical Priesthood no longer exists does not rule out that it has its Christian counterpart, which does exist, and may be understood as its eternal extension…
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… Christianity is the Proper Continuation and Fulfillment of the Old Covenant…

Of… The Mosaic law ‘religion’ of which Jesus was a member of

For Jews and Everyone, Salvation now comes Via FAITH in Messiah Jesus
  • Led by God’s Holy Spirit
 
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George720 said:
How long have we been in the End Times?
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One could say that we’ve been in those times … since the Fall of Man…

What concerns us Today is the Prophesied Great Apostasy period
  • and many other converging Signs
  • which Signal Jesus’ Forewarnings of His Oncoming Return / Judgement.
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kainosktisis said:
During the time of Jesus Christ, neither he nor his apostles would have had the term “priest” applied to their mission or identity. The priesthood was exclusive to the tribe of Levi and at that time was associated primarily with their sacrificial…
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Well, the “Once for all” Sacrifice of Christ is now bloodlessly offered by the Priesthood of the Body of Christ, and the Blood-sacrifices of the Levites are no longer done… And the Apostles appointed Episkopoi and Presbuteroi and Deakonoi wherever they went… All of this after the Pentecost of Tongues, the Coming in Power of God to the Body of Christ…

So we still conduct the Eternal Sacrifice of our Lord which is, or at least can easily be, understood as a Levitical Priestly function, and the Bishop in whose behalf he functions can easily be understood as Christ Himself acting through him, the Bishop, unto the Priest… So the Levitical Priesthood has been superseded and set aside, which it is and has been, while being fulfilled in the Parish Priest…

The Ethiopians have a much more “Jewish” form of worship, being isolated from the Christian Faith around the Mediterranean, from the 4th Century for a thousand years - The “Lost Christians”, yet fully Christian with monasteries and all the Mysteries… I think they simply kept to the Jewish forms but with Christian content in their Services…

In Jewish terms, perhaps a “legitimate” heresy…

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kainosktisis:
In Jewish terms, perhaps a “legitimate” heresy…
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And if the Jews had received Christ?

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Who do you think His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary was…?

Who do you think the Apostles were…? Who do you think the first believers were…?
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kainosktisis said:
They were also Jews…
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I know, I know…

And the Jews rejected the first believers…

They persecuted and killed them…

Regarded them as a cancer to be excised…

A foul growth of their own body…

Yet the Stone which the builders rejected…
Has become the Headstone of the Corner…

But tell me, that name you use, kainosktisis, what does it mean and why did you choose it?

I sniffed it up and it seems ‘strange’…

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Well, to be sure, I’m not sure I got the grammar correct, but here is the inspiration for it:

2 Corinthians 5: 17 NKJV
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation ; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

The verse in the original Greek with Strong’s Concordance:

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_corinthians/5-17.htm

NEW (2537):

https://biblehub.com/greek/2537.htm

kainos : new, fresh

Original Word: καινός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: kainos
Phonetic Spelling: (kahee-nos’)
Definition: new, fresh
Usage: fresh, new, unused, novel.

CREATION/CREATURE (2937):

https://biblehub.com/greek/2937.htm

ktisis: creation (the act or the product)

Original Word: κτίσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: ktisis
Phonetic Spelling: (ktis’-is)
Definition: creation (the act or the product)
Usage: (often of the founding of a city), (a) abstr: creation, (b) concr: creation, creature, institution; always of Divine work, (c) an institution, ordinance.

Just to be clear - I don’t hate my Jewish brethren. My Messiah came from/through them to save me - to save us all.
 
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2 Corinthians 5:17 - BYZ – ωστε ει τις εν χριστω καινη κτισις τα αρχαια παρηλθεν (5627) ιδου (5640) γεγονεν (5754) {Variant #1: καινα τα παντα } {Variant #2: τα παντα καινα }

I KNEW I had seen this before - You ran the two words together and changed the spelling in transliterated English - A sneaky dodge, you neophyte lover of the Greek language you!

καινη κτισις - eg “kaini-ktisis” - becomes kainosktisis

I mean, no wonder I had such a time tracking it down…

Which goes together with the idea in Scripture that we are a “peculiar people”…

Thank-you - I had failed to connect it to 2 Cor…

geo
 
You’re the first person who’s actually asked me about it in a linguistic way! 🤣 Thank you for that.

I’ve encountered other Christians online who’d seen it, thought I was applying some weird pagan thing to my name, & even after explaining the origins of it , they still claimed it to be some weird pagan thing … :roll_eyes:
 
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