The light of the world.

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(John 8:12):
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.

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(Quran 24:35):
*Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things.
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*اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِن شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونِةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ نُّورٌ عَلَى نُورٍ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
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This thread suggest how the Gospels date back from the time when the Dead Sea Scrolls were written. Good because that point in some way how John The Baptist was inspired by God and the teachings of the Dead Sea Scroll.
 
Muslims do NOT follow Allah, we worship Him.

Muslims instead follow the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)… and we also follow the way of the Prophets before him like Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them all).

And so any prophet who says to follow him is definitely NOT the One who is to be worshiped.
 
Scholars believe John the Baptist followed the teaccings of the dead sea scrolls, including the doctrine of Purgatory.
If a Protestant does not believe in purgatory, he/she is against the doctrine John the Baptist followed.
 
The separation between God and Prophet in Islam makes sense because of the strictness involved in the application of those terms. God is reserved for Allah, and Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad, etc. are all Prophets. Unfortunately, this does not apply to Jesus in the Christian context because we believe he was God made flesh. Jesus was not a prophet, he was and is the Messiah. He is the Christ. Abraham, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, etc. were all prophets. Jesus is the Christ, Mary the Theotokos–Mother of God.

So when Jesus says he is the “Light of the World,” the Q’uran’s mention of Allah being the Light of the World does not contradict. Jesus is God. If Jesus is the Light of the World, then so is God. If God is the Light of the World, so is Jesus.

This is why we have the Trinity: because God begot Jesus, and upon Jesus’ death and resurrection, he promised the Peraclete, the Holy Spirit, to dwell amongst men until the end of the age. Three persons, one nature. Islam does not have this belief, and so must relegate Christ to the level of prophet, even though he is so much more.
 
hamba2han said:
Muslims instead follow the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)… and we also follow the way of the Prophets before him like Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them all).
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I would have agreed with you IF the way of Muhammed was identical or even 50% close to the way of Jesus…
IHeartAquinas said:
So when Jesus says he is the “Light of the World,” the Q’uran’s mention of Allah being the Light of the World does not contradict. Jesus is God. If Jesus is the Light of the World, then so is God. If God is the Light of the World, so is Jesus.
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GOD’s Word.
 
Allah called His Prophet “light” and a “lamp spreading light” because of the guidance and light with which Allah sent him, with which Allah guides all those who answer his call (peace and blessings be upon him) as He says:

O Prophet! Verily, We have sent you as witness, and a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner – and as one who invites to Allah by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light. … (Al-Ahzab 33: 45-46)

Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad) and a plain Book (the Qur’an). … (Al-Ma’idah 5: 15)
 
hamba2han said:
Allah called His Prophet “light” and a “lamp spreading light” because of the guidance and light with which Allah sent him, with which Allah guides all those who answer his call (peace and blessings be upon him) as He says:

O Prophet! Verily, We have sent you as witness, and a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner – and as one who invites to Allah by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light. … (Al-Ahzab 33: 45-46)

Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad) and a plain Book (the Qur’an). … (Al-Ma’idah 5: 15)
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For me, I feel that Jesus’ light which is a heavenly one is much brighter than Muhammed’ light which was an earthy one…
 
Sam_777 said:
For me, I feel that Jesus’ light which is a heavenly one is much brighter than Muhammed’ light which was an earthy one…
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When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. … (John 8:12)

Where does this verse say heavenly light??
 
hamba2han said:
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. … (John 8:12)

Where does this verse say heavenly light??
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(John 6:38):
*“For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.”
  • For me, Jesus is not just a normal prophet as mentioned in Islam and as Muslims believe, for me Jesus that sinless person, the one who teach heavenly manners, the one who is before Abraham, certainly from heavens, and anything He said from heavens and no one can or dare to change His words…:gopray2:
 
hamba2han said:
Muslims do NOT follow Allah, we worship Him.

Muslims instead follow the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)… and we also follow the way of the Prophets before him like Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them all).

And so any prophet who says to follow him is definitely NOT the One who is to be worshiped.
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Matthew 16:16
Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.

As Simon Peter had been constituted the first in the college of apostles, and therefore surpassed the others in dignity as much as in zeal, without hesitation, and in the name of all, he answers: thou art the Christ, the Redeemer promised to the world, not a mere man, not a mere prophet like other prophets, but the true and natural Son of the living God. The Christ, the Son, the Christ formerly promised by the law and the prophets, expected and desired by all the saints, the anointed and consecrated to God, the Son, not by grace only, or an adoptive filiation like prophets, to whom Christ is here opposed, but by natural filiation, and in a manner that distinguishes him from all created beings. Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God, not by grace only, or by adoption, as saints are the sons of God, but by nature, and from all eternity, the true Son of the living God.

Source: Haydocks Catholic Bible Commentary and the NAB
 
So…if Quran 24:25 specifically states that Allah is the light, and then the passages quoted later, Al-Ahzab 33: 45-46 and Al-Ma’idah 5: 15, specifically refer to Muhammad as the light, should it not follow that the parallel to Christ’s usage of “light” be applicable here?

I do not believe Muhammad was in any way a divine person nor do I believe he ever spoke to God, but it seems the distinction between Allah and Prophet is blurred by these three passages.
 
(Al-Qur’an):
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth… (24:35)

Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad) … (5:15)

… and as a lamp spreading light. … (33:46)

There is a huge difference in meaning between using the Light for Allah and using a light/lamp for Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qur’an.
 
hamba2han said:
(Al-Qur’an):
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth… (24:35)

Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad) … (5:15)

… and as a lamp spreading light. … (33:46)

There is a huge difference in meaning between using the Light for Allah and using a light/lamp for Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qur’an.
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i agree with IHeartAquinas view actually , may be you misunderstood his /her point

quran sometimes says that allah is light , and sometimes refer to prophets as light and in other situations it refer to revelations as a light

the light in quran and the light in bible refers to light of truth and light of guidence and light of knowledge and light of faith

it’s very clear in both quran and bible
in bible jesus said "I am the light of the world.
what is that mean ? is that mean I’m God !! , no it just mean
Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.

the same with quran , it says “Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light”
what light is this ? it’s the light of truth and light of faith
 
elwill said:
i agree with IHeartAquinas view actually , may be you misunderstood his /her point

quran sometimes says that allah is light , and sometimes refer to prophets as light and in other situations it refer to revelations as a light

the light in quran and the light in bible refers to light of truth and light of guidence and light of knowledge and light of faith

it’s very clear in both quran and bible
in bible jesus said "I am the light of the world.
what is that mean ? is that mean I’m God !! , no it just mean
Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.

the same with quran , it says “Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light”
what light is this ? it’s the light of truth and light of faith not the light of the moon offcourse
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What does that mean? It means that Jesus Christ will save those who believe in Him as the Messiah. He will protect those who believe in Him from demons, persecuttion, and grant them Salvation, not a Heaven full of women, slave boys, food, and drink, but a Heaven of peace and being with God.
 
hamba2han said:
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. … (John 8:12)

Where does this verse say heavenly light??
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Because LIFE is the domain of ALLAH, and NONE OTHER THAN ALLAH.
 
hamba2han said:
(Al-Qur’an):
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth… (24:35)

Indeed, there has come to you a light (Prophet Muhammad) … (5:15)

… and as a lamp spreading light. … (33:46)

There is a huge difference in meaning between using the Light for Allah and using a light/lamp for Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qur’an.
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What is the difference of The Light and a light? Certainly not just the uppercase and lowercase of the keyboard is it not? Any elaboration in Quran?
 
I am not familiar with the Quran, but I have encountered and studied parallelism in ancient poetry and narrative from the Middle East.

Generally, and we see this a LOT in the Old Testament, when a significant figure or event is equated with an allegorical or archetypal idea (vis-a-vis, God = Light), any writers writing in the same vein, meme, tradition, etc. will utilize the same relationship. And when it is applied to another significant figure or event (vis-a-vis, Christ = Light) they are equating the former and the latter via the allegory or archetype. So it follows:

OT Writer says God is Light.
OT Writer2 says God is Light.
OT Writer3 says God is Light.
NT Writer says Christ is Light.
NT Writer2 says Christ is Light.
NT Writers 1 and 2 are ACTUALLY saying, Christ is God.

In similar fashion, if a HIGHER figure is equated as THE Light, and then a LESSER figure is equated as A Light, the equation still holds true that the writer would be implying that the latter is somehow related to the former. I would assume that this distinction in the Quran is accidental, as Muhammad was illiterate and would be prone to mistakes and inconsistencies when dictating, but it is significant because it implicitly contradicts Islamic teaching on the indivisibility of God.

That is, if this parallelism existed for Muhammad’s community at the time. I could be wrong in applying it to the Quran, but I seem to recall a mention in my class on Classical Semitic Literature that early commentaries to this effect were offered up, but the Caliphs suppressed them and modern Quranic scholarship is notoriously silent in exploring their own instances of parallelism.
 
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