The limits of corporal punishment?

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No, it didn’t disturb me – I was trying to prevent life-threatening behavior. If your child was choking to death, would you refuse to perform an emergency tracheotomy?

When you assume someone is an “ignorant fool” you can be sure there is at least ONE ignorant fool in that conversation.
 
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As I age, I realize more and more how it is important not to jump to conclusions. That is why I ask questions, instead.

Thanks for your response. I still have trouble understanding how someone thinks whipping a baby is going to magically control their behavior, though. When my daughter was about that age, I had her at the pool one day and she was running on the cement. I told her three times to stop and she wouldn’t. So I picked her up and put her in the car and we went home. You can’t really reason with an 18 month old the same way you can with a five year old.

Anyhow, I am glad you learned a better way. Raising kids is the hardest thing I ever did. Whenever I learned a better way of doing something with regards to that, it was always a win.
 
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I have a good friend, a Major in the Army like myself, who “lost” a daughter. She was into drugs and sex, and ran away. He never saw her again. Now that was more than 40 years ago, and the girl is surely dead – especially when you consider the short life expectancy of drug-addicted teen-age prostitutes.

His daughter ran around with the daughter of a Warrant Officer. She had the same problems. Her father punished her, including taking a belt to her. The Warrant Officer was given Non-judicial Punishment for what he did, and he told the Commanding Officer that he would keep doing it – his daughter was his responsibility.

That girl is a happily-married grandmother today.
 
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Addiction is more than a psychological disease. The more that is learned, the more it seems there is a genetic component. There are nonviolent ways to work with addicts. Battling addiction is always an uphill climb. Violence is never a healthy answer, though.
 
Well, I don’t know. I do know that this father sacrificed his career for his daughter – and saved her.
 
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What made you think that was an appropriate thing to do to an 18 month old baby (or anyone, for that matter)?
No kidding!

Build a freaking fence, or don’t let your kid off a leash. Or any number of other things that don’t involve switching a baby!
 
I read this same description of striking a toddler with a switch for following her mother when she wasn’t supposed to in a child discipline book.

The book is in print still in print.

Babies don’t work that way. They don’t have the psychological development for impulse control. That’s why you child proof and make things safe for baby.
 
Parents who whip their kids are using the same logic that any parent that uses any consequences to train their child is using. The child is too young to predict the harmful outcome of their actions or to have empathy for others sufficient to stop them from the undesired behavior. The child does understand that the behavior consistently results in a consequence they don’t like, therefor they don’t do the behavior.
 
I had a runner. It was terrifying. You can’t spend your life inside a fence. I never hit my runner, but I absolutely sympathize with the parent with a kid who knows better, but still waits for the moment you are most vulnerable, like when you’re changing a diaper, to bolt into traffic. I’ve only used corporal punishment once, on my 5yo. She is a certified obsessive toucher. She has to touch everything and she is FAST! Before you can even say “Don’t…” she’s stuck her hands into the hot ash under the fire pit. She does this so impetuously, she doesn’t have time to think about the fact that it might be unsafe, or she might have been told not to, it the thing she wants to touch isn’t hers. A few weeks back she homed in on a strange object on the path in the park. I screamed “no” three times as she ran to it, but she was obsessed beyond reason and I was stuck behind the stroller. Fortunately, it was only dog poop. I thought for sure she would have learned her lesson, but no. The next day, at the farmer’s market, she stuck her hand out for the wet stone at the knife grinding stand and she got her hand smacked for the first time in her life. She hasn’t done it since.
 
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