The list of mortal sins seems too harsh

[Mystrx]

And remains unforgiven, that is the key part. Who are we to say whether a person was unforgiven or not? Perhaps in demonstration of his mercy God forgave said person, even though they died in mortal sin. Do you rule out that possibility entirely?

My mistake I meant unforgiven using the Sacrament of Penance. Sorry, I should have stated “dies without **receiving absolution ** for their mortal sins”.

No, but we can trust in his mercy and refuse to speculate on how will judge a soul.

Works for me as long as we’re not making a Presumption of God’s mercy.

Why can’t we just leave it at that?

I intend to and do leave it at that.

 

[SuperLuigi]

=Pallas Athene;13332913]In this case the atheists have nothing to fear. They do not “seek” hell, either. So it would be unjust to damn them with eternal torture for not believing something for which there is absolutely no evidence.

Perhaps there’s a lot of souls in Hell that didn’t necessarily “seek” it, but choose it.

And there’s plenty of evidence it exists.

Not to have eternal life and eternal torture would be a just solution.

Sorry, that’s not an option.

Sounds good to me.

There’s a lot of things in life that sound “good” but just are not true.

 

[AFerri48]

I’m not sure if all drug use is actually a grave sin or not. If it’s something major like meth or heroin, then I could understand that, but I doubt marijuana would be grave… honestly I don’t see it as being even venial, unless you are going overboard. I don’t smoke pot, but after looking into it, I feel it should be lumped into the tobacco/alcohol category of “just don’t abuse it”, rather than the meth/heroin category.

 

[paduard]

I’m not sure if all drug use is actually a grave sin or not. If it’s something major like meth or heroin, then I could understand that, but I doubt marijuana would be grave… honestly I don’t see it as being even venial, unless you are going overboard. I don’t smoke pot, but after looking into it, I feel it should be lumped into the tobacco/alcohol category of “just don’t abuse it”, rather than the meth/heroin category.

Yes I go along with that; well put in my opinion.
paduard

 

[Sheeniac]

Atheism: It is generally accepted among the church that those who worship a different religion still can go to heaven if they were virtuous. Then why wouldn’t the virtuous pagan clause apply to atheists? For those of us who have family members who are atheists, this question has a lot riding on it.

Let me address this point as a former atheist (of 25 years).

Although I didn’t believe in God, I still believed in ‘Truth’ and spent years looking for it, from reading and contemplating Cicero to investigating and considering Buddhism. Moral relativism was unattractive to me, and I think that was a key reason for my search.

For a quick, but good, discussion of atheism and agnosticism with regard to sin, please see 2123-2128 in the Catechism.

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm

I believe that virtuous atheists are on the same ground as virtuous pagans. But please keep praying for your family members, as I pray for mine. From an atheistic perspective, why would they want to be in a place forever with someone they didn’t know? Of course, we understand it differently but can only place our trust in the love and mercy of our Heavenly Father.

Not all atheists ‘hate’ God, nor look down on religious people. There are many reasons for atheism but most (Christian and atheist alike) seem to make blanket statements about why people are atheists or what they think. This is an error, IMO, and leads to anger and misunderstanding.