The Mass is coming on now

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I noticed that the Subdeacon is Fr. Joseph Lee, one of the assistants from my own parish, St. Clement’s in Ottawa!
 
Fr. Joseph Lee was at the last one done in September, wasn’t he?

Awesome Homily!
 
DJgang said:
Fr. Joseph Lee was at the last one done in September, wasn’t he?

Awesome Homily!
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He was on the roundtable discussion back in September, with Msgr. Schmitz from the Institute of Christ the King.
 
Is that Fr. Lee, in the back right now, hiding his face?

What is the meaning of that?
 
DJgang said:
Is that Fr. Lee, in the back right now, hiding his face?

What is the meaning of that?
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Not entirely sure which part you are reffering to- I was away from this forum for a while while watching the video,

I assume you are reffering to the Consecration. In the traditional Mass the Subdeacon holds the paten, with the humeral veil, in front of his face during the consecration.
 
Just a question I would like post to you all:

Since the Holy See has deemed it permissible to receive the Blessed Sacrament reverently in one’s hands during the Rite of Communion in the Ordinary Form of the Liturgy, would it be permissible to do so in the Extraordinary form as well? I know that it would be extremely rare or seem “out of place” but what you you think? This may be a matter better discussed under a different thread, but I do not want to get into a debate over personal piety and devotion. It is a fact that Rome has granted permission at least to the faithful in the United States to receive in the hand. There is no point in arguing against it (I myself prefer to receive the Eucharist on the tongue, but that is neither here nor there). Surely it would look strange and maybe catch the priest off guard, but what if one truly preferred to receive in the hand? would that be allowed in the Extraordinary form of the liturgy?
 
VietCatholic83 said:
Just a question I would like post to you all:

Since the Holy See has deemed it permissible to receive the Blessed Sacrament reverently in one’s hands during the Rite of Communion in the Ordinary Form of the Liturgy, would it be permissible to do so in the Extraordinary form as well? I know that it would be extremely rare or seem “out of place” but what you you think? This may be a matter better discussed under a different thread, but I do not want to get into a debate over personal piety and devotion. It is a fact that Rome has granted permission at least to the faithful in the United States to receive in the hand. There is no point in arguing against it (I myself prefer to receive the Eucharist on the tongue, but that is neither here nor there). Surely it would look strange and maybe catch the priest off guard, but what if one truly preferred to receive in the hand? would that be allowed in the Extraordinary form of the liturgy?
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No.

Communion in the hand is only allowed by indult. Anyone may refuse to utilize the indult. Also, few traditional priests would allowe such a thing, let alone consider it to be reverant.
 
Caesar said:
No.

Communion in the hand is only allowed by indult. Anyone may refuse to utilize the indult. Also, few traditional priests would allowe such a thing, let alone consider it to be reverant.
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Unfortunately I’m not sure you’re correct. I think that indult doesn’t give priests permission to decide whether to accept it or not. I might be wrong, but I don’t think that they have a choice. If I’m wrong, the better. Though I imagine that in traditional parishes priests don’t encounter this anyways.
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
Unfortunately I’m not sure you’re correct. I think that indult doesn’t give priests permission to decide whether to accept it or not. I might be wrong, but I don’t think that they have a choice. If I’m wrong, the better. Though I imagine that in traditional parishes priests don’t encounter this anyways.
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The faithful have the option in the OF to receive the Host on the tongue or in the hand and no priest may deny it either way. In other words, a traditional priest at the OF cannot deny communion in the hand just as a non-traditional (I hate the word liberal when describing theology) priest may not deny communion on the tongue.

My priest (who is traditional but does not know how to celebrate the EF) got called into the into auxiliary Bishop’s office because he merely ASKED people to receive on the tongue because people have been carrying Hosts back to the pews and leaving them in the hymnals or on the floor. People were misinterpreting his request as a demand. He specifically says that he cannot deny communion in the hand but does insist that people consume the host in front of him.

At the EF, it’s always communion on the tongue while kneeling, period.

Now back to your regularly scheduled topic. 🙂
 
timjp77 said:
no one clapped at the end of this Mass? At my N.O. parish that would have happend if the choir had sung that beautifully.

anyway, I’d like to thank ETWN for airing this Mass. It was truly awe inspiring.
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You will not find clapping in a traditional parish. Ever. The choir is not there for an entertainment purpose, they are there to sing praise and glory to God. They are not there for our enjoyment. It can be a by-product but that is not the main purpose. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is not a broadway show and clapping and/or bowing afterwards blurs these lines considerably.
 
Caesar said:
I noticed that the Subdeacon is Fr. Joseph Lee, one of the assistants from my own parish, St. Clement’s in Ottawa!
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Would you mind doing a favor for me, Caesar? Tell Fr. Lee thank you from the Una Voce Chapter of Northern Alabama when he gets back to Ottawa. We thanked him plenty but another one wouldn’t hurt, and I’m sure it suprise him to get another thank you in Ottawa when he gets back. He offered our chapter a beautiful Low Mass last Saturday on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception in a beautiful Church here in Birmingham. He also gave a great talk afterwards in the Church basement. You are blessed to have such a wonderful Priest at your parish! Thanks!
 
At the TLM I attend, my parish priest announces before each TLM that everyone is to receive Holy Communion on the tongue only. One woman put her hands out once, but he wouldn’t allow it, rightfully so. If people want to stick their hands out, they should stick with the NO.
VietCatholic83 said:
Just a question I would like post to you all:

Since the Holy See has deemed it permissible to receive the Blessed Sacrament reverently in one’s hands during the Rite of Communion in the Ordinary Form of the Liturgy, would it be permissible to do so in the Extraordinary form as well? I know that it would be extremely rare or seem “out of place” but what you you think? This may be a matter better discussed under a different thread, but I do not want to get into a debate over personal piety and devotion. It is a fact that Rome has granted permission at least to the faithful in the United States to receive in the hand. There is no point in arguing against it (I myself prefer to receive the Eucharist on the tongue, but that is neither here nor there). Surely it would look strange and maybe catch the priest off guard, but what if one truly preferred to receive in the hand? would that be allowed in the Extraordinary form of the liturgy?
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SemperFidelis said:
Would you mind doing a favor for me, Caesar? Tell Fr. Lee thank you from the Una Voce Chapter of Northern Alabama when he gets back to Ottawa. We thanked him plenty but another one wouldn’t hurt, and I’m sure it suprise him to get another thank you in Ottawa when he gets back. He offered our chapter a beautiful Low Mass last Saturday on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception in a beautiful Church here in Birmingham. He also gave a great talk afterwards in the Church basement. You are blessed to have such a wonderful Priest at your parish! Thanks!
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Will do 🙂
 
LCMS_No_More said:
My priest (who is traditional but does not know how to celebrate the EF) got called into the into auxiliary Bishop’s office because he merely ASKED people to receive on the tongue because people have been carrying Hosts back to the pews and leaving them in the hymnals or on the floor. 🙂
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Seriously!!! I can’t even imagine that happening… (shakes head)
 
AnthonyJ said:
At the TLM I attend, my parish priest announces before each TLM that everyone is to receive Holy Communion on the tongue only. One woman put her hands out once, but he wouldn’t allow it, rightfully so. If people want to stick their hands out, they should stick with the NO.
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Believe me, I understand the sentiments completely. (or at least I think I do…) Receiving on the tongue is a “better” way (I use the word “better” cautiously, for lack of a more suitable word) of encountering Christ in the Blessed Sacrament than receiving in the hand. However the question I originally posted in essence gets to this. either receiving Holy Communion in the hand is right, or it is wrong. If it is right, then would it be contrary to canon law for a priest prohibit a Communicant from receiving in a lawful manner? I agree with a previous poster that this is unlikely to occur at a EF liturgy.
 
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