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What does our Lord mean when he said “the meek shall inherit the land” (Matthew 5:5)?
I understand Him as saying that those who humble and peaceable, and do not overly strive for riches and position in this world will be rewarded with riches in the next. The saying should be understood as a contradiction of human wisdom which says that we only gain by striving and by pushing ourselves ahead of others.What does our Lord mean when he said “the meek shall inherit the land” (Matthew 5:5)?
I have no will, if I am meek enough, so I blow whatever direction the Spirit sends me. Will has to be either disconnected from ego and/or disabled in itself even if by near-despair. Suddenly I am acting without the burdens of owndership and control, and even cause-effect. It’s just doing, and it’s wonderful. It’s like dancing without either leading nor following, but some other more “participatory” way that requires no effort but it guided strictly by our peripheral consciousness. Kind of like a permanent deja vu maybe. Suddenly it seems that there is no such thing as ownership, so there is no such thing as poverty. That probably sounds strange but maybe I can develop it a little more clearly as time goes on – this is the first time I’ve ever made this stuff up because I’m feeling it now. It’s like the janitor; I can get in anywhere so it may as well all be mine because I am responsible for it.The last two posts make me so happy.
In our age when humility, meekness, and obedience are signs of weakness and where we are told that only the strong survive, it is nice to hear of people speak of these things in a positive light.
Alan, your comment is profound. I think I know what you mean but would love to hear the idea developed. Please do say more.
-Tim-
Funny thing is that when Christ said those words (the Greco/Roman Age) meekness and humility were seen as signs of weakness and were not considered virtues at all. Both Aristotle and Plato taught that meekness and humility were the marks of a weak man who never know happiness, and against that backdrop came Christ declaring that the great teachers of mankind have the understanding of happiness exactly upside down.The last two posts make me so happy.
In our age when humility, meekness, and obedience are signs of weakness and where we are told that only the strong survive, it is nice to hear of people speak of these things in a positive light.
Alan, your comment is profound. I think I know what you mean but would love to hear the idea developed. Please do say more.
-Tim-
For me it involved a 10 years psychotic episode but it doesn’t have to. Contemplation is accessible to everyone, but it’s also a matter of learning how to get oneself out of the way.Alan,
Quoting you, “Will has to be either disconnected from ego and/or disabled in itself even if by near-despair.”
I am trying to grasp that action or attitude. There is a scripture, where it says that we have to ‘labor to enter into His rest’. Is this ‘disconnection,’ or ‘disabling’ a laborious process?
Thanks, for any response.
That’s how I read it. I have no idea if it’s right; I only read the first couple chapters of the book, and that was almost 10 years ago. But to me, losing the will and letting God take it over have had this effect. I am no longer responsible or authoritative over what I do, but the Spirit does it through me because I do not resist. I see these things are better than what I’d do on my own, so I keep doing them.Thank you Alan, for sharing with us that ‘romantic’ contemplative poem by St. John of the Cross
I was just wondering if ‘taking up our cross daily’, is the labor wherein we labor to enter into His rest, and whether the dying to our own will is:
I went out from myself,
leaving my cares
No, not rambling at all. You actually sound like some of the mystics, the desert fathers of the early Church. It is wonderful.I have no will, if I am meek enough, so I blow whatever direction the Spirit sends me. Will has to be either disconnected from ego and/or disabled in itself even if by near-despair. Suddenly I am acting without the burdens of owndership and control, and even cause-effect. It’s just doing, and it’s wonderful. It’s like dancing without either leading nor following, but some other more “participatory” way that requires no effort but it guided strictly by our peripheral consciousness. Kind of like a permanent deja vu maybe. Suddenly it seems that there is no such thing as ownership, so there is no such thing as poverty. That probably sounds strange but maybe I can develop it a little more clearly as time goes on – this is the first time I’ve ever made this stuff up because I’m feeling it now. It’s like the janitor; I can get in anywhere so it may as well all be mine because I am responsible for it.
Does that help? I fear it may be a bit of rambling
Alan
This makes my day. I have intended to incorporate thoughts that mystics had with my own.No, not rambling at all. You actually sound like some of the mystics, the desert fathers of the early Church. It is wonderful.
“It’s just doing”
Guided effortlessly by the Holy Spirit. It is wonderful. I have felt it myself.
Thank you.
-Tim-
Gratuitous display … it’s past 20 minutes so I can’t delete.This makes my day. I have intended to incorporate thoughts that mystics had with my own.
Alan
If you hadn’t bought it to our attention, no one else would have noticedGratuitous display … it’s past 20 minutes so I can’t delete.
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Makes me think of that Carrie Underwood song “Jesus take the wheel”. Can’t help but think it should continue “… and keep it!”That’s how I read it. I have no idea if it’s right; I only read the first couple chapters of the book, and that was almost 10 years ago. But to me, losing the will and letting God take it over have had this effect. I am no longer responsible or authoritative over what I do, but the Spirit does it through me because I do not resist. I see these things are better than what I’d do on my own, so I keep doing them.
I’ve never figured out why it always says, “God is my co-pilot.” I think it’s fun to let God run the show and watch where one goes.
Alan