**Wrong. **They can choose to honor the terms of the marriage, even if the spouse isn’t, and be free to receive all the Sacraments they want. It’s not a fun situation, but it’s the right one, for someone in that situation. If an annulment never comes, then that is a cross, however heavy, for them to bear on their way Home.
Sorry, but you are overlooking a couple of important things here. Paul spoke specifically about “recognizing” the body and blood of the Lord in the bread and wine:
As I understand it, using your hypothetical situation, Jane would have no problem in getting an annulment because of the very fact that the marriage was entered into under false pretenses, which means the marriage was not valid to begin with.
As far as I know, Jane could elect to become Catholic and, upon being able to receive her Sacraments, go to Confession concerning her marriage, promise (and mean it) to live her marriage vows faithfully despite whatever Steve may be doing, and be in full communion with the Catholic Church. A civil divorce does not undo the sacrament of marriage, and in some cases the Church advises (though with caution) that two people with problems live separately for a time, though chastely and still observing their vows.
That’s not true at all. Unless she later wants to remarry, annulment isn’t even an issue. She does NOT have to get an annulment before she can become a Catholic.
Hey thats not so out of line really, one would not believe what some RC’s have told me what their Priest have told them while in confession. I’m not saying anything here, but well it depends on the confessional Priest one gets also. Seems the older ones seem to be more tolerant.
Why? Is marriage so much of a mere formality to you that you’d rather see them able to be dissolved in the blink of an eye? Or have I misunderstood you somehow?
“Don’t attack me, just passing along the juicy gossip.”Hey thats not so out of line really, one would not believe what some RC’s have told me what their Priest have told them while in confession. I’m not saying anything here, but well it depends on the confessional Priest one gets also. Seems the older ones seem to be more tolerant.
PS: dont attack me I’m just passing on what I’ve heard.
You are more than capable of doing so yourself, thank you. I would suggest researching the process first, however, so that this time you can be sure that what you state is fact, unless your aim is simply to amuse the Bishop.
No not juicy gossip, just maybe a little more humanity and some realize people are human and take each case in content. Thats the thing about rules, they are never black and white.“Don’t attack me, just passing along the juicy gossip.”
You just keep telling yourself that. Gives you a lot of “wiggle room”, I suspect.
Why don’t you elaborate? What does this have to do with me??
But we do not see the person occupying the Office of the Pope as the Antichrist. Personally I like Pope Benedict, he seems to tell it like it is and beside he is GermanWELS also believe the Pope is the Antichrist
“Luther and the Lutheran Confessions identified the Roman Catholic papacy as the Antichrist for three main reasons: First, the papacy claimed to speak with an authority—even infallibility—that was equal to or surpassing the Word of God itself. By doing so, it put itself in a position of being “anti” or “in place of” Christ. Second, the papacy claimed that there is no salvation outside of the Roman Catholic Church, making membership in a human organization a condition for salvation; finally, in emphasizing that faith and obedience are necessary for salvation, the papacy undermined the very heart and center of the biblical teaching that salvation is by God’s grace alone and comes to individuals through faith in Christ alone. In holding to each of these teachings, the Roman Catholic papacy placed itself in clear opposition to the foundation of the Christian faith, and therefore in opposition to Christ himself.”
Off-topic. PM me if you’d like to continue.
I am divorced and was confirmed this year into the church. I am just starting to work on my decree of nullity. I have not remarried. I cannot remarry in the church until that is final. I’m not seeing anyone right now so that isn’t a problem for me. I’m gong to see if the Orlando diocese has a webpage and check this out. I’ve never heard that a divorced person who has not remarried b/f joining the church had to get an annulment b/f receiving the Sacraments.
Thank you so much for the welcome. It’s been an amazing two weeks.
